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To think some words don't belong in informal conversation

197 replies

Thrif · 11/11/2014 08:17

There are certain words that, whilst technically correct, make a person sound completely up themselves when used out loud.

Whom is the worst. Whilst is another

OP posts:
sanfairyanne · 11/11/2014 13:08

go report
TheFirstOfHerName too while you are at it

Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

Dawndonnaagain · 11/11/2014 13:25

Why should I report her, she explained clearly.
I have AS. I speak properly. It has fuck all to do with my AS and everything to do with my upbringing and education.

BigPawsBrown · 11/11/2014 13:26

My main culprits are: quite, indeed, certaintly.

Floggingmolly · 11/11/2014 13:31

Why is any mention of Aspergers deemed offensive these days? There was a thread a couple of days ago where one poster requested another to change her username as she found it most offensive. The name:-
HappyAsASandboy... I'm assuming she saw the AS in the middle and chose to be offended Confused

Optimist1 · 11/11/2014 13:33

I have a good vocabulary and a reasonable grasp of grammar; I enjoy using both - it's part of who I am. I don't necessarily expect the same of people I'm in conversation with but if someone judges me to be "up myself" as a result of how I speak then they can FOTTFSOF and then FO some more! YABU, OP.

Dawndonnaagain · 11/11/2014 13:35

I think if you read my post, Flogging it explains quite clearly.

CocktailQueen · 11/11/2014 13:36

Whilst is just an old-fashioned form of while - I don't know anyone young who says it. Whom is correct - sometimes -so would be OK spoken.

I hate the use of 'myself' - is it ever correct??:

Send it to myself
I myself think that...

Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pumpkinpositive · 11/11/2014 13:43

I use oftentimes a lot.

I like it. Smile

CrohnicallyAnxious · 11/11/2014 13:50

like you said dawndonna your repertoire of vocabulary is down to your upbringing and education. However, it is a trait of Asperger's syndrome/ASD, that people fail to adapt their language to different situations, and I believe it comes under the 'social communication' part of the triad of impairments. For example talking to adults in the same informal manner as their peers, or conversely using 'big words' when in conversation with their peers.

MrTumblesBavarianFanbase · 11/11/2014 14:03

It isn't a sign of being erudite to be incapable of changing register to suit the topic and situation.

TheLovelyBoots · 11/11/2014 14:27

I hate the use of 'myself' - is it ever correct??:

It's meant to be used reflexively i.e. "I looked at myself in the mirror".

I think it's OK to use it for emphasis? Example: "Well, I wouldn't do it myself, but...." Or, "Are you going to do it yourself?" That may just be a colloquialism that's become accepted, but it feels fine to my ears.

TheLovelyBoots · 11/11/2014 14:28

I think I posted this a few weeks ago, I was at the car dealership (seemingly ground zero for pseudo-speak) and the guy helping me said:

"Can I ask yourself to wait for myself in the lobby? "

TheLovelyBoots · 11/11/2014 14:31

I use "whom" where appropriate, I don't find it pretentious.

Dawndonnaagain · 11/11/2014 14:31

I accept and understand that Crohnically, however, I neither accept nor understand why somebody would post in the manner in which the comment was posted. It is neither relevant nor fair to those of us with AS, it's the usual implication of: 'Oh, they're Aspie, that's why they are being correct/pedantic'. Which may not necessarily be the case.

LegsOfSteel · 11/11/2014 14:50

The other day I heard myself say "can you send that to myself". I can't remember the rest of the conversation as I was thinking "what a plonker, what the hell did I just say?"
Unfortunately, if you hear something so often you start to copy it - arrgh!

TheLovelyBoots · 11/11/2014 14:55

I can see how the "myself/yourself" phenomena might creep up behind you LegsofSteel, it is pretty remarkable.

I'm struggling to think of a more pervasive hypercorrection.

grocklebox · 11/11/2014 15:56

Nothing wrong with myself in the right context, same as any other word.

" I did not give the package to my assistant, I delivered it myself"... perfectly correct, what other word could you use than myself?

tigerdriverII · 11/11/2014 17:48

grocklebox nothing wrong at all with that. I'd say the same, myself Wink. What I object to (not saying I'm the ultimate arbiter or anything of course) is this: "Please refer all orders to myself" - should be "to me". This sort of use of "myself" (plus "Myself and my colleague would be pleased to see you", "how are yourselves") is grandiose, "genteel" and "official" all at the same time. And wrong to boot!

Girlwhowearsglasses · 11/11/2014 18:39

Going forwards and looking forwards to. Instead of going forward in the singular.

I'm going to insert discombobulated into a conversation now Grin

LumionaMoonsplash · 11/11/2014 18:47

My friend uses these in informal texts, it's bloody weird but I quite like it. Makes me feel reet common.

ClashCityRocker · 11/11/2014 18:59

Oh crap, I referred to myself as 'one' the other day.

As in 'one wouldn't want to cause a scene?'

I may also use indeed at the start of the sentence.

I don't do it to be pretentious though - it's just the way one talks!

I may also, occasionally, let out a Well! As an exclamation. But with a 'h' in it.

'H'wellllll!'

I'm a common as muck yorkshire lass!

LurcioAgain · 11/11/2014 18:59

OP, you do sound as though you share the same mindset as some of the girls at my school who bullied me for using long words and complicated sentences with subclauses. It's the way I speak - live with it. Or fuck off. (Is that sufficiently demotic for you? And yes, I do use words like "demotic" in everyday speech.)

ChippingInAutumnLover · 11/11/2014 19:01

I love discombobulated :)

CocktailQueen · 11/11/2014 19:14

It's meant to be used reflexively i.e. "I looked at myself in the mirror".

"Well, I wouldn't do it myself, but...." Or, "Are you going to do it yourself?"

" I did not give the package to my assistant, I delivered it myself"

Oh, yes, I had forgotten the correct use of 'myself' - sorry! I don't like it when it's used when 'me' should be used instead.

Mammanat222 · 11/11/2014 19:20

I use forthwith in emails sometimes (as in can you make sure I receive your signed document forthwith) and it drives my manager mad.

She thinks as I don't say forthwith in RL it's pretentious, so I now make a point of dropping it into the conversation whenever I can Grin