To hate the "let it go" Frozen song and its sexist attitude?

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It's played to death and not even that good! Also hate Elsa's "makeover" which abruptly occurs when she's singing about being true to herself. Clearly nothing depicts female emancipation to children as clearly as high heels and a glitzy slashed-to-the-thigh dress!! I suppose it's to much to ask for Disney to really allow Elsa to "let it go" i.e. sprout some armpit hair, stick on a pair of trackies and watch a bit of X Factor with a large bag of Doritos!

My eyes are much bigger than average too. They still take up less than 10% of my face space.

Anyway, I should probably actually watch this film so I can make a constructive post

You need to get out more!

I am with you, OP. Loathe the fact that she has to be climbing ice mountains in high heels and a push up bra. Depressing stuff. The idea that this is supposed to be embraced as 'feminist' is pathetic…..

I think we need to accept that little girls -and big girls-- like a sparkly disney princess

It's the only Disney film where the princess becomes a queen in the film. And in her own right, not because she has married well

Elsa doesn't climb mountains in heels... Neither does Anna

And how do you know what their underwear is like

interesting read

Yy to her succeeding the throne

I actually prefer Anna
love elsas dress though

No one climbs the mountain in push up bra and heels!

I find the song charming- when sung badly by dd- and I enjoyed the film in so far as I could enjoy any disney film.

I did find elsa's orgasmic transformation amusing and I find her face utterly ridiculous but it could be/used to be a lot worse.

I also really fancy kristoff - I know this is wrong!

I just wish kristoff had sung more

orgasmic transformation

Surely, being a feminist means that if a woman (or man!) wants to wear any type or shoes or underwear, they chuffing well can and sod anyone else.

I thoroughly enjoyed it in the cinema... It has mixed messages, but then what film doesn't?

Pluses:
The love that saves the day is sisterly love, not romantic love.
Elsa doesn't end up married.
It actively subverts the love-at-first-sight trope of earlier Disney films. The guy who sweeps Anna off her feet turns out to be the bad guy (and it's really hard to see it coming - a useful thing to be able to talk to older children about, I'd have thought).

Minuses:
Anna doesn't really think things through in any more detailed way with Kristoff - how is she to know she's got it right this time?
Catchy as the "he's a bit of a fixer-upper" song is, I'm not convinced by the "find a man then change him to your needs" subtext.
Anna gets called Ohnnah throughout (sorry, the American pronunciation of what's actually my given name does my head in!)

Stuff I'm "hmm" about:
The slit skirt and heels - why sexualise the heroine in a kid's film?

Not as good as Brave, but a hell of a lot better than the stuff I grew up with (Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty etc.) Totally agree with the earlier poster who said Beauty and the Beast was 50 shades for children - same message! It's propaganda for forcing women to stay in abusive relationships because "he'll change if only you leurve him enough."

Also going to go against the pack on the Princess and the Frog. I love 95% of that film - the way she's determined to (and does) set up her own business, the jazz, the Louis Armstrong gator! But seriously, I can't be the only one who looks at the prince and thinks "I give it 6 months before he's shagging anyone and everyone behind her back?"

A woman- or indeed a feminist- can climb a mountain in heels, push up bra, slit skirt etc if she wants, however that doesn't make it a feminist action.

Don't think the only reason that girls dress up more as Elsa than Anna is just down to the dress, it could be because Elsa has powers.
I wouldn't see that as any more odd than boys dressing up as superheros

I asked dd why she likes Elsa best, she said because elsa has the powers.

"A woman- or indeed a feminist- can climb a mountain in heels, push up bra, slit skirt etc..."

As a feminist, former wearer of heels and former ice-climber (not at the same time), I beg to differ! But purely on practical grounds. (Could never get the crampons to stay on my Cartier kitten heels! )

Lurcio, I am going to challenge some of your negatives cos I'm a saddo and bored

Anna doesn't really think things through in any more detailed way with Kristoff - how is she to know she's got it right this time?

She only kisses him. Having given permission no less! This is a more measured relationship and doesn't jump to love and marriage on her behalf. Though he is said to love her.

*Catchy as the "he's a bit of a fixer-upper" song is, I'm not convinced by the "find a man then change him to your needs" subtext.^

Lyrics "we're not saying you can change him cos people don't really change". But they are saying love can happen despite ones flaws.

Anna gets called Ohnnah throughout (sorry, the American pronunciation of what's actually my given name does my head in!)

Agreed. why not just spell it Ana.

Was that replying to me john

I took 6 children to see it for DD's birthday when it first came out. They were pretty unimpressed on the day and didn't start to rave about it until the hype started a few months later...