To be a bit dismayed if 4 million women visit this site,why are there so few posts on the feminism threads?

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Ok so I know there are lots of lurkers but if there are really millions of women who go on MN, why are so many threads on the feminism section consisting of so few women? It doesn't make sense to me as so many issues that
women post about on many different topics are actually feminist issues when it comes down to it...

shewept - No it doesn't. But I don't know how else to assess it. I am not going to wander around asking a wide variety of women if they shave or not. They would rightly tell me it is none of my business.

"cailindana, I don't think there necessarily needs to be a solution. But maybe an acceptance that we are lucky to have the privilege to carry children, the option to use a sperm donor, time off work with a baby, generally more contact with children than dads if a relationship breaks up."

But there is also privilege in getting to have your own biological children without having to go through the physical strain and risk of growing them in your own body. Men now can have time off work with a baby, so that's not unique to women.

Bearing children is an amazing thing and I feel lucky to have been able to do it. But I don't feel lucky to live in a society where women used to be penalised for having children (by being made to give up work, or give up the baby itself if the mother was unmarried) and where now 50,000 women lose their jobs for being pregnant and many more find a career unsustainable after having children while their husbands manage to carry on without a problem.

lucycant that's understandable. Not everyone is as open about the hair on their bits as I obviously am.

However that why i disagree with blankets statements of 'most young women shave and do so because...'

I think, given the option, most women would rather be the ones to bear children, even with the additional risks and penalties. I might be wrong, but out of my female friends (and I know it's not a representative sample), none of them would want to swap roles with their other half.

I must say, I think this thread does explain why people avoid the feminism boards.

"My view is feminists like you do not represent the views of the vast majority of women and this thread would seem to back me up." Can you say what views feminists hold that you disagree with?

shewept of course it's okay. Why on earth would you think otherwise?

We have choices. Some of them may coincide, some not. But I'm not telling you what to do, just as I am sure you're not doing that to me.

It's a discussion. Or the way forums work.

BTW I wasn't aware that anyone else had used the word 'edict'.

I thought I'd thought of it all by myself. How horrifying to discover that we feminists all think the same.

The feminist pub is quite friendly.
Feminism is still needed- the everyday sexism website shows that.

Personally I am very happy I am a woman. For many reasons including being the one that carried and gave birth to the kids. I wouldn't be a man for the world. Being a woman isn't always easy, its bloody hard. But I wouldn't change it. Definitely coming back as a woman next time.

shewept - Feminists don't want to be men you know.

I'd actually really like it if all the feminist posters on this thread who don't post in FWR came over and posted in an informed and engaging way about their views. I don't want to educate you and I can't promise I won't disagree (and if I do I will tell you so and explain why) but I'd really appreciate the opportunity to learn. I'd start a thread, if people want to join it?

I admire your bravery BuffyEpistemiwhatsit

You know you're onto a loser here, don't you?

"Personally I am very happy I am a woman."

Me too!

No one did use the word edict. However she issued one. The same as she has issued them before about changing their name.

We are discussing it. I disagree with her and several points. I didn't suggest anyone wasn't aware it was a discussion.

The reason I asked if it was ok, was because you mentioned it was a discussion, which I think we were all aware of. So I was unsure of your point.

I would never tell a woman what to do. And that's my point. By belittling women's personal choices, you (not you personally) are attempting to control their choices. Which is, surely, what we want to stop.

I wouldn't be a man for the world.

You don't have a choice.

Just so long as you know buffy.

Buffy I will look more often in FWR.

lucycant where did I say that? I didn't even say anything like that. Since I am a feminist, why would I think they want to be men.

I was commenting on ifinished post that most women would rather be the ones to have children.

I wish I could have born a child. But my body can't. Being able to carry and give birth must be wonderful.

Sorry shewept, I got the wrong end of the stick.

limited really??? I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that.