To be a bit dismayed if 4 million women visit this site,why are there so few posts on the feminism threads?

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Ok so I know there are lots of lurkers but if there are really millions of women who go on MN, why are so many threads on the feminism section consisting of so few women? It doesn't make sense to me as so many issues that
women post about on many different topics are actually feminist issues when it comes down to it...

To answer the OP - I believe in choices. The brand of feminism on here would seem to view my choice as wrong. I want to be at home for my children. I enjoy it, and as soon as DC1 arrived I lost my drive work-wise. I still worked hard, but it just wasn't for me any more. I run the home, finances included. My DH works and helps with the children in the evening. I just cannot relate to half the stuff on the feminism board.

" "Men do tend to want children less than women do" - who says? "

I wonder if men were truly held accountable for any children that might be conceived, whether it was a man after a casual encounter but who walked away, or if they truly had to share all the child caring and everything that goes with that like chores, school stuff etc - I wonder if they would be more careful about making sure they took precautions or if they really want a child that much at all - to commit the way women generally do.

And yes there will be some men who do all of that and who want children more than women - I know.

Just read mumsnet for a start - all those women who don't want sex and their husbands do or look at simple economics worldwide - women rarely need to pay for sex as it's always available. Men often have to pay as they can't get as much as they want.

However I would be delighted if I were wrong in both areas - desire for babies and sex. I've no axe to grind on those issues.

And saying somebody's statements are ridiculous doesn't make your point of view any more valid. I wonder why women don't come on these boards.

Zzzz - and you saying a statement is ridiculous doesn't actually make that true - as much as you think it should.

Woody Allen probably had it right...

[Alvy and Annie are seeing their therapists at the same time on a split screen]

Alvy Singer's Therapist: How often do you sleep together?

Annie Hall's Therapist: Do you have sex often?

Alvy Singer: [lamenting] Hardly ever. Maybe three times a week.

Annie Hall: [annoyed] Constantly. I'd say three times a week.

Bumping this thread as I missed it first time around.

I'd been thinking this myself, how the fwr board seems to be much quieter than I remember from when it was first set up.

Having briefly scanned this thread there's a hell of a lot of anti fwr feeling out there!

An independent, free-thinking woman won't be wasting her time looking at 'feminist' websites.
She will be busy living her own life in the way she chooses.

I agree, Holiday.
The hilarious thing about lots of feminists is that they spend all their time telling women they can do and say what they want, but if someone disagrees with them then that person isn't as good of a feminist as they are all of a sudden.

It's like, to be a feminist you must agree with x,y,z and if you don't them you're not a feminist. Which is exactly what the patriarchy does to women - which makes me think that a lot of feminists are just spouting shite.
Who can be bothered with that crap?

I have to say I am with needaholidaynow

Because you get shot down in flames if you have a different opinion.
They seem to think that if a radical prominent feminist makes a statement they all have to agree, ie 'all PIV is rape'.
None of them can actually say that they think that is a load of bull.

Yesterday there was a thread about BA cabin crew, one poster suggested that the rules about lipstick, dress, hair and shoes was a good reason not to fly with BA!
Apparently BA have a rule that female cabin crew must wear lipstick so that is discrimation because the rule doesn't apply to men.

So it seems I was right about the level of hostility towards the fwr board on here!

When I have a look at the board it seems pretty quiet and fairly tame. Especially when I compare it to a few years ago.

It seems the word 'choice' is quite contentious. I think a lot of people seem to have taken a view of 'choice' shaped by the mainstream media which is itself anti feminist even when it says the opposite. So I can see where the confusion comes from!

So it seems I was right about the level of hostility towards the fwr board on here!

I don't see any hostility from the posts I read above. Just that people have better things to do.

See jackie- people are disagreeing with you so they're not proper feminists? THAT'S why nobody bothers.
We're all brainwashed by the media because we don't ascribe to your particular view. Whats the point in having a debate with someone that refuses to see another point of view?

I've blocked it - as in it won't even show on my browser.

I think it's dominated by a few prominent posters with very fixed views and who don't like people who disagree with them.

For me it just doesn't interest me to debate here, I have another place I debate about it if I get the mood too online but largely I tend to leave debating more to offline then online.

Feminism imo shouldn't be boxed into 1 section women can have a feminist pov and post anywhere still get their meaning across personally Iddon't think everything female is a feminist issue that needs dissected and analysed also I find the section intimidating and aggressive

I can't stand the constant undermining of my personal choices on the FWR boards - apparently you can't campaign against abortion rights, run a European mega-brothel or even be a Jihadi war bride these days without some feminist telling you it's not a feminist choice. It's my choice as a woman to exploit other women and I expect full approval of the sisterhood!