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To be so annoyed by 'helpful' dementia articles (long)

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adaughter0 · 13/10/2014 17:55

My mum has had dementia for the past three years. I recently read an article in a newspaper giving advice about how to care for a loved one with dementia. The gist of it was that you have to ‘see past’ the disease, as the person you love is ‘still in there somewhere’.

It said you have to be patient, keep calm, and try to inhabit the ‘dementia world’, wherever that is. It may as well have recommended buying a unicorn and riding it there.

I’m not going to pretend I have answers, because I haven’t. I’ve stumbled through the last three years with absolutely no idea if I’m doing the right thing or not.

What that article failed to offer, like most of the others I’ve read over the past three years, is useful, realistic advice about the hundreds of bizarre everyday challenges that dementia brings with it. They don’t tell you about the reality of what it’s like to live with this appalling disease.

They don’t tell you how to deal with your previously kind, gentle mother swearing at you and hitting you in the head as you desperately coax her into the shower to try and get rid of the ever-present smell of urine.

They don’t tell you what sort of nappies to buy when she becomes incontinent; let alone how you’re supposed to persuade her to wear one, or how to stop her taking it off and stashing it in a pillow case.

They don’t tell you how to persuade her to take her medication when she’s screaming that she’s going to call the police because you’re clearly a member of the Gestapo who’s trying to poison her.

They don’t tell you what to do when she thinks that the small boy you pass on your walk is her grandson and so wants to talk to him. Neither do they tell you how to placate the angry parents who think they’ve encountered the world’s frailest child snatcher.

They don’t tell you about the helpful passer-by who insists on intervening because they’ve mistaken her having a meltdown in the street (and you desperately trying to get her home) for a geriatric kidnapping.

They don’t tell you about the anger and resentment that arises when your siblings choose to become invisible and stop visiting, leaving you to deal with the whole sorry nightmare because they’ve got kids and you haven’t, and therefore you clearly have nothing better to do.

They don’t tell you about the hours of paperwork, endless bureaucracy and pointless meetings with Social Services you have to trudge through when all you desperately want is some advice and support, but it takes six months for them to assess whether or not you’re entitled to even get on the waiting list for advice and support.

They don’t tell you about the hours you’ll have to spend on the phone trying to claim disability benefits for her because the person on the other end insists that they have to speak to her personally in case, as her daughter, you’re trying to steal from her. They’re sorry but they really do have to check with her that this isn’t the case, regardless of the fact that she can’t remember her own name, let alone how to use a phone, because that’s how the system works.

They don’t tell you about the GP’s visible annoyance when you bring her to get checked for a urinary infection for the fourth time in six months, even though they were the one who advised you to bring her for regular checks. Of course she’s displaying peculiar behaviour, she has dementia, and they have lots of other patients to see today. Cheers doc.

They don’t tell you about the friends she’s had for years who gradually stop coming to visit because they ‘hate seeing her like that’. I’m pretty sure she hates being ‘like that’ too, but she could really do with a friend. They’ll all be at her funeral though, because that’s what friends are for, isn’t it?

They don’t tell you how to deal with the crushing realisation that she’s never even going to be able to phone you again, let alone see you get married or be a grandmother to your kids.

They don’t tell you how to channel the anger you feel when you realise that your fellow 30-somethings’ lives now revolve around marriage, mortgages and kids and yours revolves around a terminally ill, confused old lady who doesn’t even know who you are. They’ve chosen their responsibilities; you’d give anything not to have yours.

They don’t tell you how to not laugh when she insists that you give ‘the kids’ a bath, because ‘the kids’ only exist in her head but you still run the bath and carry out an impressively elaborate child-bathing mime because it makes her happy, and she doesn’t have an awful lot to be happy about these days.

They don’t tell you what to say when your 67 year old mother cries because she thinks she’s 12 and panics because she can’t find her (long dead) mother and she’s packed all her belongings and begs you to just take her home.

They don’t tell you about any of these things.

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ClapHandsIfYouBelieveInFatties · 13/10/2014 17:57

YANBU. You write it. In fact, write a book. Flowers Much love to you and to your Mum.xx

LittleBairn · 13/10/2014 18:00

YANBU the artical sounds like a load of patronising twaddle.

Scarletohello · 13/10/2014 18:03

Oh you poor thing, I can totally relate to you. My dad has dementia and I moved back in with him for a year to look after him. It drove me to the verge of a nervous breakdown. In the end I had to put him in a care home as I couldn't take it any more.

Yes those articles are useless, I think people can't bear to deal with the kind of realities you describe above as it's so hard to face and there is no cure. I found social services useless too.

I have no advice to offer except look after yourself, get a carer's assessment and don't feel any shame if you just can't do it any more. It's a huge burden for anyone to take on.

There is a book which was recommended to me called, The Selfish pig's guide to caring. It describes really well the mixed emotions of guilt, resentment, frustration, love and sadness carers typically feel.

Thanks to you and your mum

TinklyLittleLaugh · 13/10/2014 18:03

YANBU. It is a horrible thing and rife in my family. I agree those articles are absolutely ridiculous. So are the ones about spotting the signs early and going to the doctor to be diagnosed and treated. Does anyone know of anyone who has had any actual treatment, even after they have eventually been properly diagnosed? ' Cos I sure as hell don't.

petalunicorn · 13/10/2014 18:06

YANBU and the article sounds crap. I think that people don't talk about the reality of dementia in the same way as a lot of people don't talk about childbirth. You can't really communicate what it is like to someone who hasn't been there and why would people want to discuss such a terrible aspect of life.

spanieleyes · 13/10/2014 18:06

Mum isn't "still there", she has long gone and left a shell, someone who doesn't recognise her husband or daughters, who can walk past her house and not know where she is, who hides things and then cries because she can't find her keys/glasses/the door.
So don't tell me to see past the disease, there is nothing left to see.

Stealthpolarbear · 13/10/2014 18:06

Oh op I'm so sorry. Have you discovered talking point?

petalunicorn · 13/10/2014 18:08

Tinkly - those get to the dr early articles really boil my piss too, and I hardly ever say that. Don't go to the dr, they can't do anything, live in happy denial for as long as possible having the nicest time possible.

Lovehorror · 13/10/2014 18:09

My mum has had dementia for 10 years and hasn't spoken or recognised anyone for most of the 10 years,she is only 62.

Embolio · 13/10/2014 18:10

Sending love to you. You are right in everything you say. You're doing such a good thing for your mum.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 13/10/2014 18:17

Petal Yep and book a one way ticket to a clinic in Switzerland while you still can. Sorry if that offends anyone but my Grandma, Dad and two Aunts have had dementia. No way is it getting me.

TooMuchCantBreathe · 13/10/2014 18:24

Dementia is one of the most cruel things that can happen to a person and the people who love them. It takes almost super human strength to be the one who doesn't beat a retreat because they "can't cope with seeing her like this".

I worked with sufferers of dementia. I was "lucky" because the people I worked with were not my family. But that doesn't mean it didn't bring me to my knees (metaphorically whilst in work but actually at times outside) when I had to watch a client in her infrequent lucid moments beg me to kill her. I often used to wonder what I would do if it was my own mother saying those words. It still brings me to tears now although her lucid moments are long gone.

I think there is a tendency to try not to scare people with the cold hard truth about dementia and I can understand that but surely care would be better if people were prepared for what was coming? Enabling people to be realistic about the situation could save some of the heartache. I agree with pp, write it yourself, your op is an excellent piece in itself. The truth hurts but sometimes it's needed.

spanieleyes · 13/10/2014 18:26

I'm with TinklyLittleLaugh. My grandma, mum and 2 aunts ( on my Mum's side) all have/had dementia. Switzerland for me too.

Lovehorror · 13/10/2014 18:29

A lot of people think dementia is just about getting forgetful,when most cases you lose the whole person you knew and are left with a shell.

Lovehorror · 13/10/2014 18:30

One way ticket to Switzerland for me.

WerkSupp · 13/10/2014 18:33

I agree, Tinkly. Death is far preferable, IMO.

HalleLouja · 13/10/2014 18:37

Sending lots of love. My grandma had it and it was the most horrible thing. I agree death is far preferable.

Not sure if there is anything I can say that will help. Maybe document your thoughts in a journal / blog.

PiperIsOrange · 13/10/2014 18:43

My nan has mix dementia, I have stopped my DC visiting because the stuff she comes out with is really not suitable for them to listen to.

My nan is in a nursing home, because it was physically impossible for her to have someone there 24/7. Still feel guilty about it but we all visit often.

My nan is there in body, but her personality has changed.

I often come out of the nursing home crying, how could life be so cruel to her.

CMOTDibbler · 13/10/2014 18:45

YANBU.

They don't tell you how to explain to your small child why grandma spits food out at the table because she has forgotten how to eat

Or why she suddenly starts screaming at them

Or what to say to your dad when his wife of 45 years screams at him to get out of his bed - because she's forgotten who he is

People seem to think that everyone with dementia is the same - ideally lovely old ladies (whose youth was in the 40's) who are delightfully dotty, but will talk happily about the old days.

My mum had her youth in the 60's (so no war songs please), doesn't really like other people, and can barely speak. All her social skills are long gone - as are her friends Sad

WerkSupp · 13/10/2014 18:50

It is an incredibly cruel disease that causes terrible suffering and leaves those afflicted with no quality of life. I cannot think of a single person who would not rather be dead.

ChillieJeanie · 13/10/2014 18:55

I'll be joining Tinkly and spaniel. I helped my Mum deal with both her parents (Alzheimer's for Grandma, vascular dementia for Grandad) and it was horrific. I live in dread of Mum going the same way, and if I develop it I will have no one to look after me.

adaughter0 I really feel for you, and I'm sorry you're not getting the help and support you need and deserve from your siblings. I saw that happen to Mum too and it does make you angry.

laundryelf · 13/10/2014 18:55

YANBU, its absolute crap, real help is in short supply. I'm so sorry you and your mum are going through this, its a horrible disease.

KirstyJC · 13/10/2014 18:57

I'm so sorry about your Mum. I often work with people with dementia and you're right, that article just doesn't get it at all.

The not washing, the hitting people when they try and clean their bum, the constant calls from the carers saying yet another one is refusing to go in as they were attacked again. :-(

The packing bags and trying to leave. The crying for their Mum, why isn't she here, why has she left them alone.

It breaks my heart.

You sound like you are doing an amazing job - and please try not to blame your siblings. Not everyone can be as strong as you.

WerkSupp · 13/10/2014 18:57

I would not want someone to look after me, I would rather be dead. Hopefully, if it happens to me I will be able to put an end to it before I became incapable. DH feels the same about himself.

ChillieJeanie · 13/10/2014 19:01

Absolutely agree, Werk. My worry is not realising what's happening to me until it's too late for me to get to Switzerland by myself. I hope by that time I can have myself put to sleep in the UK rather than having to go overseas.