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To be so annoyed by 'helpful' dementia articles (long)

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adaughter0 · 13/10/2014 17:55

My mum has had dementia for the past three years. I recently read an article in a newspaper giving advice about how to care for a loved one with dementia. The gist of it was that you have to ‘see past’ the disease, as the person you love is ‘still in there somewhere’.

It said you have to be patient, keep calm, and try to inhabit the ‘dementia world’, wherever that is. It may as well have recommended buying a unicorn and riding it there.

I’m not going to pretend I have answers, because I haven’t. I’ve stumbled through the last three years with absolutely no idea if I’m doing the right thing or not.

What that article failed to offer, like most of the others I’ve read over the past three years, is useful, realistic advice about the hundreds of bizarre everyday challenges that dementia brings with it. They don’t tell you about the reality of what it’s like to live with this appalling disease.

They don’t tell you how to deal with your previously kind, gentle mother swearing at you and hitting you in the head as you desperately coax her into the shower to try and get rid of the ever-present smell of urine.

They don’t tell you what sort of nappies to buy when she becomes incontinent; let alone how you’re supposed to persuade her to wear one, or how to stop her taking it off and stashing it in a pillow case.

They don’t tell you how to persuade her to take her medication when she’s screaming that she’s going to call the police because you’re clearly a member of the Gestapo who’s trying to poison her.

They don’t tell you what to do when she thinks that the small boy you pass on your walk is her grandson and so wants to talk to him. Neither do they tell you how to placate the angry parents who think they’ve encountered the world’s frailest child snatcher.

They don’t tell you about the helpful passer-by who insists on intervening because they’ve mistaken her having a meltdown in the street (and you desperately trying to get her home) for a geriatric kidnapping.

They don’t tell you about the anger and resentment that arises when your siblings choose to become invisible and stop visiting, leaving you to deal with the whole sorry nightmare because they’ve got kids and you haven’t, and therefore you clearly have nothing better to do.

They don’t tell you about the hours of paperwork, endless bureaucracy and pointless meetings with Social Services you have to trudge through when all you desperately want is some advice and support, but it takes six months for them to assess whether or not you’re entitled to even get on the waiting list for advice and support.

They don’t tell you about the hours you’ll have to spend on the phone trying to claim disability benefits for her because the person on the other end insists that they have to speak to her personally in case, as her daughter, you’re trying to steal from her. They’re sorry but they really do have to check with her that this isn’t the case, regardless of the fact that she can’t remember her own name, let alone how to use a phone, because that’s how the system works.

They don’t tell you about the GP’s visible annoyance when you bring her to get checked for a urinary infection for the fourth time in six months, even though they were the one who advised you to bring her for regular checks. Of course she’s displaying peculiar behaviour, she has dementia, and they have lots of other patients to see today. Cheers doc.

They don’t tell you about the friends she’s had for years who gradually stop coming to visit because they ‘hate seeing her like that’. I’m pretty sure she hates being ‘like that’ too, but she could really do with a friend. They’ll all be at her funeral though, because that’s what friends are for, isn’t it?

They don’t tell you how to deal with the crushing realisation that she’s never even going to be able to phone you again, let alone see you get married or be a grandmother to your kids.

They don’t tell you how to channel the anger you feel when you realise that your fellow 30-somethings’ lives now revolve around marriage, mortgages and kids and yours revolves around a terminally ill, confused old lady who doesn’t even know who you are. They’ve chosen their responsibilities; you’d give anything not to have yours.

They don’t tell you how to not laugh when she insists that you give ‘the kids’ a bath, because ‘the kids’ only exist in her head but you still run the bath and carry out an impressively elaborate child-bathing mime because it makes her happy, and she doesn’t have an awful lot to be happy about these days.

They don’t tell you what to say when your 67 year old mother cries because she thinks she’s 12 and panics because she can’t find her (long dead) mother and she’s packed all her belongings and begs you to just take her home.

They don’t tell you about any of these things.

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VikingLady · 13/10/2014 19:03

I'm so sorry Op, and everyone else who has gone through this. We have early onset Alzheimer's in my dad's family - it gets pretty all of the men in their 50s. My dad had made plans for arranging his own "accident" if/when he started to develop it.

He died of a pulmonary embolism at 57 - an instant, painless death. No Alzheimer's symptoms by then, and outsiders were horrified by a healthy man dying so young and in fairly tragic circumstances. Whilst his death was awful and I'm not even nearly over it 4 years later, DM, DB and I are so fucking glad it happened. Best guess is he'd have had another few months before he started it.

rumbelina · 13/10/2014 19:17

Thanks Flowers Flowers Flowers

JennyBlueWren · 13/10/2014 19:18

Write an article! Send it to the paper/magazine where you read this. Share with others.

wifeandmotherandlotsofother · 13/10/2014 19:23

I am in the same boat too, my mum is only 70 but has vascular dementia and Alzheimers and HATES everyone. To be fair, I expect I would too.

Her big fear was getting dementia as her mother had it and she watched it take my Gran from us.

Sending all empathy to OP and all of us in the same boat

MyOneandYoni · 13/10/2014 19:34

Bump.
sorry to hear what you are going through.
I have something similar but nearly nearly at this stage yet...
Hope you have some real life support...

Mudgarden · 13/10/2014 19:41

Oh boy, adaughter0, you are absolutely right. I can completely understand, because my mum is very similar to yours. It's an unbelievable nightmare. And there's terrible grieving involved because really, she's gone; it's like bereavement without death.

I wonder if you have simply been unlucky with Social Services and the idiot you spoke to about disability benefits - we did have trouble but not as much as you have had. We did have an excellent senior social worker visit (and therefore witness the whole scene and understand why Mum can't apply in person etc).

Massive hugs to you.

lotsofcheese · 13/10/2014 19:48

OP Thanks My dad has dementia; it is robbing my intelligent, musical, artistic & caring father of his personality. He is such a bright man & is just fading away - physically & mentally.

He is early-stage, still at home & supported by my ever-patient mum. How she does it, day in & day out, I will never know.

But we have had good support; from social services & the elderly mental health team - who helped my mum claim benefits & put support in place when she had a fall & couldn't care for him.

And also he is on Aricept, which is showing a clinical benefit.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 13/10/2014 19:49

I'm so sorry OP it is incredibly hard, and devastating to watch, as well as the stress and work of caring. Can I ask where abouts in the country you are? There may be a local Carers Centre who can help you; even if it's just to speak to someone who knows what you're going through. Age UK sometimes have Dementia Advisers who are specially trained to support people with dementia and their carers. I know local to me there are also dementia carer's peer support groups (which sounds grim, but they aren't) where you can meet people who know what you're going through and can talk about it in a safe place, free from any judgement. I'm sorry you aren't getting any support from your family, that is so unfair. Does your mum live with you?

And those articles are trite, and shit, and guilt inducing. Always.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 13/10/2014 19:50

Viking, so sorry about your Dad. I reckon we had lost about 50% of my Dad when he died of a stroke, and he had started making horrible inappropriate comments to my teens. I remember just wanting to punch him, even though I knew it wasn't really him talking. Thankfully the kids didn't really notice.

So yes, I completely get the sense of relief mixed with grief. My Dad would rather be dead than hurt his beloved grandchildren.

imonaplane · 13/10/2014 19:50

Thinking of everyone who has to deal with this terrible condition. I lost both my parents to cancer in their early 60's so they weren't affected but my Grandma had dementia. She was 97 when she was diagnosed tho. It really is the saddest thing. Sending love to you all. x

ihaveadirtydog · 13/10/2014 19:55

Oh gosh- I don't know what to say-your post has made me cry for you, your mum and the many others affected (and I'm normally a callous cow who isn't moved to tears by anything).
I'm so sorry -what a horrible disease.

magimedi · 13/10/2014 19:58

adaughter0 - You have so much sympathy coming from me - my mother had Alzheimers & died nearly 20 years ago. It was just so awful & nothing had ever prepared me for what we had to go through.

As mudgarden said it really is bereavement with no death and knowing you still have the death to cope with.

Those articles, I am sure, are written by people who have never had to live with this tragedy happening to their loved ones.

All I can do is send you a cyber - hug & tell you that you are not alone in this awful suffering.

flumpysocks · 13/10/2014 19:59

YANBU. Those articles are bollocks. My mum is 59 and has early onset Parkinson's disease dementia. Everything you say is something I've been through or felt.

I'm grieving for a parent who's still alive, and it's crap.

chickensaresafehere · 13/10/2014 20:04

My Dad has dementia,he always said he DID NOT want to suffer like my Nan did.
It breaks my heart that I cannot fulfil his wish.
I am dreading the future & his inevitable deterioration.
No one can prepare you for the horror of dementia.
It's fucking shit Sad

butterbeerfloat · 13/10/2014 20:11

Feel like this could've been written by me or my mum two years ago in regards to my poor Nan so couldn't read and run.

My mum's brother and all his children also disappeared when they realised the dementia wasn't a temporary thing and the only way was downhill, so my Nan only had my Mum, me, my DH, my two brothers and my sister and her DH and God was it a struggle.

There's no way you can deal with a monstrous disease like this alone, I really hope you're able to find support, write to your siblings and say this is precious time with your mum and they need to be showing her how much love for her they have, you need days off where you know she'll be in good hands because it really is too much to handle by yourself.

Know that you're doing brilliantly and you're amazingly strong. You're doing so well by your mum, just wish you didn't have to.

Hugs to you both Flowers

AcrossthePond55 · 13/10/2014 20:18

Just the number of posters show that so many of us are feeling just like you are. My mum accused my brother of being a rapist and both of us of drugging her to steal from her. It got to where she was calling the police on my DB and telling them that he was keeping women prisoner!

She's now in an assisted living and doing much better. It seemed once she was out of her own home a lot of her delusions disappeared. The ones that remain are sad for her (various people 'dying', others in the same facility 'stealing' from her) but no longer involve DB or I being evil to her. Thankfully, the staff where she lives are a lovely bunch of people & vv good at dealing with all this.

It's just so, so heartbreaking. Switzerland is too far for him, but DB's plan involves walking out into the New Mexico desert with a bottle of pills. All I asked of him is that he let me know ahead of time that he plans to 'disappear'. As for me, I just don't know.

AcrossthePond55 · 13/10/2014 20:21

And it's too fecking bad that millions is spent on research to prolong human life, but only a pittance on research to battle these terrible diseases that rob people of any quality of life!!

butterbeerfloat · 13/10/2014 20:25

I'm grieving for a parent who's still alive, and it's crap.
Exactly this. When we did lose my Nan we were all so devastated but also weirdly relieved, which made us feel horrendously guilty. She died in April 2013 but I've been missing her since November 2010 Sad

Fluffy40 · 13/10/2014 20:27

It's such a cruel disease .My patients get so scared and they just want to go home or see their mum or dad. They forget how to walk, eat, use the loo, peoples faces. I reckon there are thousands of people who have the disease but are not diagnosed yet.

chickensaresafehere · 13/10/2014 20:32

My Dad has been deserted by his brother & sister too.
Makes me so angry.

WerkSupp · 13/10/2014 21:06

And pay no mind to clueless arseholes who use get judgy about 'putting them in a home' or talk about the olden days when 'family' = women 'took care of their own'. Dementia is a 24/7 disease and very slow.

butterbeerfloat · 13/10/2014 21:13

Yeah adding to what Werk said, when it comes to the stage for her to go into full time care you have not failed her in any way.

We struggled to keep my Nan at home for probably way longer than we should have, which resulted in my mum's health deteriorating and my studies really going downhill but we just knew my Nan had always desperately said "Never put me in a home, never put me in a home" even long before she was ill, it was her worst nightmare Sad

But when she did have to go in when we really could not care for her at home anymore, (despite stair lifts and wet room conversions we didn't have the strength to get her in and out the chair etc and she had a fall and broke her hip) we found we were able to show her just how much we loved her and had infinitely more patience for her.

(Ashamed to say we had many an occasion when she was at home when we snapped at her for screaming/throwing things/pulling our hair/pinching us, because we were too damn tired all the time)

ChillieJeanie · 13/10/2014 21:56

We had a 24/7 carer for a while when Grandma was still living at home, but after a pretty major episode one Christmas when she attacked the carer (having previously tried to push Grandad down the stairs) we had to arrange for her to go into care. She was dead in three months, which as awful as it is to say was something of a relief. As others have said, that wasn't a failure on our part, there was literally no other option. Grandad was totally physically incapable and bedridden by that stage.

AcrossthePond55 · 13/10/2014 21:57

A great big 'AMEN' to Werk and butterbeer. A good senior home with the right facilities, where they are cared for by trained staff, and you are not exhausted or vexed when you see them is much better for them and you than an exhausted family member, a disrupted home life with a family in turmoil, and resentment between siblings/extended family.

Either DB or I go to see Mum almost every day and the visits are usually happy and fulfilling for us all. She's always happy to see us and enjoys the 'treats' we bring her (takeaways eaten together, candy, fresh fruit). She's even cheerful when we leave and always says "Thank you for coming. Do come again soon" as she would have said to her visitors in 'the old days' at home Smile.

Misiecle · 13/10/2014 22:22

I get cross with (or maybe a bit envious of?) the articles/books that encourage you to steer your dementia relative back towards the safe ground of the past, remind them of the things they enjoyed, and conversation will flow etc etc - when my mum's reality is simply the 30 seconds which surround the present moment. She seems to have no past left - it disappeared about six months ago - and while it means she doesn't get the terrible, confused grieving for what's gone, it makes conversation impossible. What's left is a tetchy now, where she doesn't really understand where she is or what's going on and - very sad, this - cannot ever remember the lovely arts sessions the home puts on every day, which she really does enjoy doing.

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