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to think it's nuts to serve nuts on an aeroplane?

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ontosecondary · 13/10/2014 16:09

www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2787807/british-airways-denies-request-not-serve-nuts-flight.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

and to hope that someone knows why airlines persist in doing this?

OP posts:
QuillPen · 15/10/2014 11:03

I am still at a loss to see any good reason why nuts NEED to be served on a plane, but I can see a very good reason not to serve them. Seems to me to be a no brainer.

Also, I have the dreaded nut allergy (and also sesame). I have definitely reacted to "nut dust" in the air. I cannot therefore see how a study can find that nuts aren't an airborne allergen.

As for them becoming more common, this is a personal anecdote, so not at all scientific: I had a nut for the first time age 4 and reacted (this was over 30 years ago). The teacher immediately told my parents I might have a nut allergy, so it must have been fairly well known about even then. Because it was obvious what my problem was (on further exposures) my parents never took me to a doctor or got me diagnosed as they didn't see the point. Maybe that is what has happened now - not more allergies, but more parents getting an official diagnosis? (I did eventually get diagnosed a few years back because I wanted my children tested (they still haven't been though!)).

TeamScotland · 15/10/2014 11:23

I was surprised to see nuts handed out on a Malaysian Airlines flight last Xmas. I had assumed they weren't allowed.

I also bring my children their own packed lunch on flights as they hate airline food, all of it. There will be sandwiches, veg sticks, cherry toms, baby bels, crisps and chocolate (less for short haul), but I wouldn't carry anything stinky like fish or eggs.

TeamScotland · 15/10/2014 11:26

Aeroplanes don't seem to be cleaned as well as before between flights either. Someone with an allergy could easily end up in a seat with a half eaten bag of KPs in the pocket in front of them from the passenger before.

ontosecondary · 15/10/2014 11:26

After reading this thread, it seems that the risk of "other passengers' nuts" is lower if those are encased in something like a chocolate bar/snickers bar. Does that make sense?

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FreshorangeforDd · 15/10/2014 11:45

Singapore Airlines also hand out peanuts.

naty1 · 15/10/2014 11:47

Nuts being finger food compared to say a dairy allergy or even strawberries which are likely to be in a meal on a plane rather than eaten as they are.
Same with a choc bar as most would eat it around the wrapper say a snickers would be held via the chocolate.

Suggest sunflower seeds/ pumpkin as alternative to nuts.

It'll be ironic if it turns out allergies are caused by air pollution from flights.
Think my allergies are from DM smoking when pg.

Cant see them cleaning plane would get rid of nut bits easily, it might just move it around.

hmc · 15/10/2014 13:45

Flowers newbiecrafter

Newbiecrafter · 15/10/2014 18:16

Hmc thankyou for those.

A lot of foods that are allergenic can become denatured when cooked. So for example, in egg allergies some people can't eat a fried egg or scrambled egg but are fine eating egg baked in cakes and breads. It's something to do with a high heat source for a length of time is enough to change the stucrure of the protein so it no longer causes a problem. Not all allergens behave this way. Nuts is one, celery is another, that no matter how much you cook them, the allergen is still present and problematic. Same with strawberries. My dd can't eat them raw but can in say, jam. However she is one of the ones who is allergic to baked as well as raw eggs, so there's no hard or fast rule about how people will respond.

I have my own theories about allergies and it's to do with how foods are manufactured these days. There are so many products with may contain warnings, tht we also have to avoid, that it makes me wonder if the traces of these allergens are sometimes in foods and sometimes not. We were told that if we introduce dd to a new food, say white fish, that if she dis okay with it we need to continue feeding it to her regularly. If we gave it once and then. It again for a while, she has the potential as someone who suffers from allergies, to react to it the next time. So of there are traces of nuts say in a choc bar and you eat it, and then you don't encounter that trace again for a while, it may be that you might also react with the next encounter.

This isn't scientific. Just my experiebpnce with my Dd and the realisation that there are so many foods now with nut warnings than ever before.

Also, someone upthread said there are studies being done where small amounts of allergens are introduced and gradually the person builds up an immunity. Apparently, it's as simple as that, according to people like the person upthread or even members of my dP's family.

It's not as simple as that and what they've found is that if they get to the stage where someone can ingest peanuts they have to eat something like 5 a day everyday. They also found that if someone didn't eat that for something like 6 weeks the allergy would sometimes come back and be as severe as it was before.

Also, in some cases where the allergy appears to be cured, people start developing different issues, like allergies to other things or to exercise. There are cases of people suffering anaphylactic shock from exercising.

It's not as simple as just a little bit each day and you'll be sured.

So much is unknown about allergies, but the very real fact is that for some people a simple mistake can be fatal. The only thing allergic people can do to stay truly safe is to avoid the allergen/s.

Newbiecrafter · 15/10/2014 18:18

Sured = cured. No idea if you'd sured or what that even is. Stupid ipad.

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