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to think it's nuts to serve nuts on an aeroplane?

134 replies

ontosecondary · 13/10/2014 16:09

www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2787807/british-airways-denies-request-not-serve-nuts-flight.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

and to hope that someone knows why airlines persist in doing this?

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wobblyweebles · 14/10/2014 02:26

Just to add to the original poster's link. Last time my nut allergic daughter flew to the UK, her Benadryl (equivalent of Piriton) was thrown away by the security staff because it was a liquid. She was carrying a doctor's letter explaining why she had Benadryl with her, but apparently this was not enough.

jay55 · 14/10/2014 04:58

I'm not allergic to peanuts, just tree nuts and pine nuts and I'm not anaphylactic .
The rise of pesto has made eating out much harder and salads having unannounced nut garnishes and the increased popularity of nut butters and breads stopped me going to posher restaurants. Asian places have to be avoided.

On planes someone else eating nuts makes me uncomfortable, itchy eyes, my lips start to go and I get mouth sores, it's always pretty quick but i know what's happening. For a child with anaphylaxis they might not know the warning signs and go straight to shock

sashh · 14/10/2014 06:10

Whyisitsodifficult

It has already been explained to you that nut 'dust' gets in to the air on flights and that is recirculated so everyone on a flight ingests the dust from packets of nuts opened on the plane.

If I take one of my numerous medications on a plane no body else ingests it. Ditto for eggs or strawberries.

It is the combination of nuts/packets/air pressure/recirculating air that causes the problem for people with nut allergies.

Aeroflotgirl · 14/10/2014 07:20

Green grow you not eating nuts for a few hours will not kill you, I will kill a person seriously allergic to nuts.

Greengrow · 14/10/2014 07:22

I know but I have never been told by airlines which of my foods not to eat or bring on the plane and a lot of them may cause allergies. I could easy take just eggs and fruit or I often take a piece of cooked salmon or chicken - that is just (or almost) sa easy for me for the nuts and we are talking here about 8 hour flight to US usually not 2 hours so taking a bit of food I can eat is a good idea.

Sirzy · 14/10/2014 07:24

My sister has a medical note and airlines have never had an issue stopping the sale of peanuts when she flies

LiegeAndLief · 14/10/2014 07:32

Why are more people allergic to nuts now than 20 years ago!?

I'm pretty sure it's just to piss you off.

YonicScrewdriver · 14/10/2014 07:43

Lol at Liege.

I would imagine peanut butter and Nutella are also more widely available, and certainly different types of nut are.

Aeroflotgirl · 14/10/2014 07:47

Greengrow go to any health food shop you will find a range of non nut foods, to eat. If an announcement was made on the plane that there was somebody severely allergic to nut on the plane and that passengers are required not to consume nuts, then you wouldent right! Nuts are quite commonly served on planes as a snack, eggs, shellfish not common. But if similarly an announcement was made not to consume egg on the plane due to a passenger having a severe egg allergy you would afford them the same curtesy.

Aeroflotgirl · 14/10/2014 07:48

After all if that was your child, you would expect passengers to do the same. An emergency at 30000 feet is difficult to deal with

TheWordFactory · 14/10/2014 07:53

I cannot understand why any adult feels that their right to eat nuts trumps the risk of death to a child.

MyFairyKing · 14/10/2014 07:53

Out of interest and not that I am a big nut fan anyway, if I ate a peanut butter sandwich at the airport and then boarded the plane an hour later, might this trigger an anaphylactic (sp?) reaction in someone?

whatever5 · 14/10/2014 07:56

They shouldn't serve nuts on planes and they should warn passengers in advance that if they bring nuts on board they may not be allowed to eat them if another passenger has a severe allergy.

For other foods, I suppose it would depend on the severity of the allergy and the likelihood of the allergen getting into the air. It would perhaps have to be judged on a case by case basis following medical advice.

Sirzy · 14/10/2014 08:07

My fairy. That's unlikely unless you decided to kiss the allergic passenger

Aeroflotgirl · 14/10/2014 08:10

It's such a rare occurrence, I've been flying for 25 years and gave never had a nut allergic passenger on a flight, but if there were and an announcement made I would certainly keep my nuts in my hand luggage.

lampygirl · 14/10/2014 08:12

I don't think planes should serve nuts as it's so easy to do a cheese biscuit type replacement but I'm not sure where you draw the line in the food passengers bring on. I'm T1 diabetic, last time I flew my 'topping up the airline' food item was a snickers bought from home. For me, waiting until I'm on board the plane would be too late to tell me to have something else.

For reasons of this nature, I'd not buy a bag of nuts to take on a plane even though the spicy covered ones are lovely but I honestly can't say I've ever gone through the ingredients list of other items. I don't know much about allergies, but I imagine many unaffected people don't see stuff with nuts in as nuts. A snickers is a chocolate bar and Nutella is chocolate spread if that makes sense.

Eastpoint · 14/10/2014 08:23

A friend's daughter reacts if she goes into a classroom in which someone has eaten nuts - she's that sensitive. Her life & that of her family's is really scary.

Aeroflotgirl · 14/10/2014 09:02

Dd school is nut free as a pupil and member of staff are severely allergic. No problem dd gas peanut butter sandwich at home.

Siarie · 14/10/2014 09:14

To throw the other controversial side out there. What about just not using planes as a method of transport?

Personally I don't eat nuts often anyway so I wouldn't be bothered but there is that option still missing from the "debate".

WannaBe · 14/10/2014 09:25

there is a lot of suggestion currently within scientific circles that the increased prevalence in nut allergies has to do with the decreased exposure to nuts hence why the advice to not eat nuts in pregnancy has now been revised.

The anaphylaxis campaign advises against banning of nuts because doing so creates a false sense of security among those with allergies and ensures they potentially do not learn to deal with their allergies - instead they just assume that an environment will be nut-free when this might not be the case.

It's one thing for an airline to stop the sale of actual nuts from their flights, but it's quite another to insist that no passenger carry nuts or even products which contain nuts, as they are almost impossible to avoid.

And there are many other allergies which can be just as damaging and actually much harder to avoid e.g. dairy allergies, where possible you could try to keep an environment allergen free but it's not realistic - unfortunately some of that responsibility of awareness does fall to the sufferer of the allergy.

And if children with allergies aren't taught very early on to manage their allergies they can fall into real issues when they start to head out on their own - to secondary school or university where there is not an allergen free zone.

My ds has a friend who has a nut allergy. When he came to my house he asked if a certain sweet contained nuts and then announced casually that "well, I do have an eppipen if they do," Shock he was far more relaxed about it than I was. Grin and actually that's the way it should be - often it's more that we wouldn't want to be responsible for someone's allergic reaction, but if the allergic person is aware they themselves can be responsible for managing a lot of the risk...

hmc · 14/10/2014 09:25

I am so thankful that my dc don't have life threatening allergies. I love nuts as a healthy whole food, but think it would be far easier and eminently sensible to have a nut ban on all flights rather than on a case by case basis. Everyone can live without nuts for a few hours!

TeamScotland · 14/10/2014 09:25

Who doesn't use air transport in your suggestion, sairie? Everyone, those who love to eat nuts or just those with nut allergies?

TortoiseUpATreeAgain · 14/10/2014 09:26

Yeah, bastarding allergic children can just swim to Cyprus.

TortoiseUpATreeAgain · 14/10/2014 09:30

Worth bearing in mind too that the anaphylaxis campaign doesn't advise against banning of nuts -- they advise against automatic banning of nuts without considering the circumstances and individuals involved. In cases such as that of a pp's friend's DD who would react just by entering a room where someone had recently eaten nuts they do, IIRC, support a ban in the relevant schools etc.

OwlCapone · 14/10/2014 09:33

I do wonder why he apparently left it until check in to mention the severe nut allergy.

I was delighted to get nuts on my BA flight this summer as the pretzels they used to serve were rank. I wouldn't have been bothered had I been told the flight was nut free due to an allergic passenger though.

Most sensible airlines should just ban nuts on flights.

I disagree. I think they should ban nuts from a flight where a passenger has a nut allergy but removing them from all flights is OTT. As others have said, there are other life threatening allergies too.