To send DC to school Who are contiguous

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www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/sickness-guide-parents-provokes-fury-7917908

My DC are well and hopefully don't get ill.

But is it ridiculous about these new guidelines.

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/sickness-guide-parents-provokes-fury-7917908

Does that link work now

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/sickness-guide-parents-provokes-fury-7917908

Does that link work now

It's lovely that your children are so close

got to laugh, they puke once, we have to keep them home for 24 hours just in case, but glandular fever and they have to go in?

bloody idiocy

It's 48 hrs for puking. :)

On the one hand, I can see that a child with something like headlice or threadworms can safely go back to school once treated- after all, only live lice can be spread, and headlice won't make pregnant women or vulnerable people particularly ill.

However, some of the listed illnesses could make someone very ill indeed. I work in a school, and off the top of my head I can think of one pregnant staff member (barely showing yet), one who has had an organ transplant (so takes immune suppressing medication every day), and I take immune suppressing medication for my Crohn's. None of us are wearing a sign advertising our vulnerability, so if a child is contagious enough to need to be kept away from vulnerable people, they should be kept away from school. It doesn't matter how ill they are themselves- my niece was perfectly well but spotty when she had chickenpox and could have happily gone to school- but if they have the potential to make someone else very ill hey should be kept at home.

I thought this was a thread about conjoined twins

That i a spectacularly badly drafted leaflet.

What I think it's trying to describe is which diseases have set periods during which your DC must stay away from others (in the interests of controlling infection). And for many there is no requirement to isolate.

But it reads like a tariff of how long you're allowed off per ailment.

Bloody iPad.

contagious

I complained about this to the head of dds school.

It also annoyed me that for a high temp, they recommend a dose of calpol and sending in. When you have a high temp you usually feel like shit, and what are the school supposed to do at lunchtime when the calpol has worn off, and the temp has climbed back up.

Bloody daft.

Trouble with most of these illnesses is that by the time they are obvious your child has probably share the condition with others. If child is on treatment they are usually safe to go back if well enough. If they are ill, raise temp, lethargy, not eating/drinking well, in pain need to be at home regardless of advice.
Had a friend who had education officer at her house, friends dd had frequent bouts of tonsilitis that left her feeling v unwell and not fit for school. When friend offered to get gp to write a supporting letter they said it would not be admissible!?! Dd started going to school sick and school would phone friend to collect - totally barmy :(

Yes, chicken pox 5 days after onset of rash? No, till all spots are crusted over.

As scaevola says, it might just be badly written, but in the context of the new rules about no head discretion about time off, it reads as saying if you have eg glandular fever you need to stop malingering and get into school

I was so ill when I had glandular fever, I barely made it off the settee for a fortnight. I thought that was the norm..?

I Feel sorry for the teachers, it's no fun looking after a sick child and to have a child who is unwell in school is not the job of the teacher, plus they could get ill themselves because of this policy.

That's daft, the recommended time off school bit is meant to reflect the recommended period the child should be kept of school or childcare for the purpose of infection control. It isn't meant to dictate how long each individual child should be off school, which obviously depends on how unwell they are. It does say so on the leaflet, but clearly people have caught the wrong end of the stick (and the press have run away with it).

Duty of care is for ALL children, which includes minimising risk of harm/infection toward healthy children and staff. It's unfair to send a sick child to school for everyone concerned. Especially the sick child who really needs to at home nursed by mum/dad. Teachers are not nurses.

In essence, the ideas are right with regards to contagiousness of the illness. However it's really poorly written and doesn't take into account how ill the child is. For example, ds had very mild hand foot and mouth whereas his friend had it severely and could not eat for a week. My ds also contracted mumps despite having the mmc so it doesn't always prevent it.

Also it relies on accurate diagnosis by a doctor I presume. Considering the Welsh NHS is on it's knees already, it seems daft.

Badly thought out all in all

People at my DD's school seem to follow these rules already.

My cousin was off work for weeks with glandular fever.

I was off work for months with glandular fever, a friend had 6 months off school including hospitalisation- it is bloody contagious.]
That guide is ridiculous, I wonder which HCP helped write that none.

The letter we were sent looked different to the one in the article, but the gist was the same. I would link to it but the ipad won't let me, so I've cut and pasted it. It doesn't seem to be sent as a guideline to infectiousness, but more as a 'send sick children in to school, otherwise our attendance looks really bad' letter.

"Should my child go to school today? Every day Counts

Headache, earache and stomach ache
Children with headache, earache or stomach ache can go to school –
just let the staff know that they have felt unwell.
Give paracetamol and plenty of fluids to drink.
If headache, earache or stomach ache persist seek medical advice.
High temperature
Give paracetamol and plenty to drink. After paracetamol, if your child feels better, bring them in to school.
If the child’s high temperature continues for 3 days or more, seek medical advice.
Coughs and colds
Children should be given paracetamol, plenty of fluids to drink and can be sent to school.
If your child is asthmatic, remember they may need their blue inhaler more often.
Flu and swine flu
Children should go back to school when recovered – this is usually about 5 days.Sore throat, tonsillitis and glandular fever
Children should be given paracetamol, plenty of fluids to drink and can be sent to school.
Diarrhoea and vomiting
Children can return to school 48 hours after the last episode of diarrhoea or vomiting.
Measles – Children should return to school 4 days after the rash has STARTED.
Chicken Pox – Children should return to school 5 days after the rash has STARTED.
German measles – Children should return to school 6 days after the rash has STARTED.
(Let school know as there may be pregnant staff members).

School decides whether or not an absence is authorised. You may be asked to provide medical evidence to support your child’s absence.
If your child has 90% attendance over a school year they will have missed half a day a week.
If your child has 90% attendance over 5 school years they will have missed half a year of school."

I had glandular fever when I was 15. I attempted to go back to school after 2 weeks, and I was so exhausted I fell asleep after about an hour. I had to call my mum to pick me up!

I was so tired I slept most of the day and still didn't have the energy to schoolwork. I wasn't contagious anymore, but it took ages to go back to feeling normal.

Mostly sounds fine except glandular fever. I dont think they have to be off but clearly whoever wrote this never had it badly i think you could be off 6m potentially. I had it easter before finals :( i couldnt get out of bed for weeks. Went back to uni a week or 2 late, missing revision classes and they suggested i should retake the year as i would be too ill to sit finals. I sat 50% and sat others in august. But i caught lots of colds for 2 yrs after. However a classmate claimed to have GF after sitting exams, but even if he did(which i doubt) they were nowhere near as ill more like they had a cold. But had an exception made to their results as Gps cant tell if you have it currently or previously had it. All very wrong as you cant complain you were ill after sitting the exams (when you hear someone else had something contagious)

Hopefully teachers would be immune to CP or vaccinated.

Lots of these start with what looks like a cold. And they are likely most contagious before they seem ill so restricting after will have limited effects including D&v. As you stay away from sick people.

You cant put a number of days on children as say a cold to an asthmatic could be a hospital stay. It can only be for an average child. Forcing them back too soon will make more kids sick so counterproductive.

Its probably as a warning to parents that they know how long each thing should take so if they are always taking lots if time off

It's because attendance is now a target for most schools. If attendance slips below the target the school automatically goes into the adequate category for inspection. If the school makes the target it gets raised for the following year!