to think "if you like it, put a ring on it" is a revolting expression?

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Women are using it about themselves!

WTF is going on?

I don't find it offensive Nomama. I find it sad.

It's terrible in the song and it's terrible out of the song.

We dance to it at Zumba and while its a great tune, the lyrics makes me cringe. We have to kind of splay our fingers along with it too. I do my one-woman boycott at that bit. It makes me die inside.

I think that might be appropriate Nomama

*"This isn't about the song."
Isn't it? When a phrase is used beyond its original source, it's generally chosen because it carried the baggage of its source; it's shorthand for the entire source. *

I dont believe that is the original source. The phrase dates from back in the days of marrying before putting out, though since that era passed, it wasn't heard much anymore. I recall it being used as criticism for a guy whose girl had gotten tired of waiting for him to be serious, and moved on to someone ready to give her the one thing every girl was supposed to want: marriage. It wasnt so much a phrase a girl would use in describing her hopes, as a phrase used to describe an immature guys error.

A dreadfully passé expression, not just as a concept, but also as a reference.

I know someone who announced her engagement with that phrase.

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Moma that's interesting. Very retro indeed.

It's a Beyonce song. How deep of a meaning are you really looking for?

I do my one-woman boycott at that bit

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I was surprised when I found out the other week that the backing dancers in that video are actually men.

Most song lyrics would sound terrible in conversation.

Don't start complaining now that we've split up, you were the one who wouldn't commit is a fairly reasonable statement IMO.

No they aren't. Beyoncé answered that one in a few interviews at the time. They are female ballet dancers, Ebony Williams and Ashley Everett

There are lots of remixes though, lots of parodies and her male choreographer was on American telly doing the dance (well he did choreograph it) which may have started the rumours.

Oh, right. Time for an eye test,Shiny

The dance was choreographed by Bob Fosse in the 1960s and is called Mexican Breakfast. Beyonce just copied it. I know this because I saw an interview with her where she said she'd seen the original and loved it so much that she'd always wanted to recreate it.

kenh14.vn/video/mexican-breakfast-bob-fosse-33589.chn

Thanks, somehow I never got round to looking for it. I love Fosse's stuff, it is so distinctive!

I don't like it either. It's the use of 'it' and the implication that the woman doesn't have a choice in the matter as well.

I'm not that easily offended either, just remember this song around the time of the sports commentators being in trouble for the sexist comments they'd made and so was noticing the increased usage of women being referred to as 'it, like 'smashed it' for example, and worse.

Shiny - not true

What on earth is the problem

It's a girl saying to a bloke if you really wanted me then you should have married me/shown some commitment.

And men can wear wedding rings too.

It's not the 'you should have committed' that's the issue, it's the reference to women as 'it'.

But surely the it refers to the finger the ring goes on?????

I think in the context of the expression "If you liked it (meaning being in a relationship with me), you should've have put a ring on it (waggle ring finger)". Not meaning the woman is it.

But it is a daft expression, implying that a wedding ring is the be all and end all. Commitment doesn't need a ring.

I didn't take it as referring to the ring finger because then that would be like 'if you like my finger then you should have put a ring on it', doesn't sound right. Anyway, who knows

In the example OP is referring to, said couple are still a couple and are having a baby. So there's definitely some commitment involved.