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to think its irrelevant if your children have the same father or not

102 replies

mls3 · 23/09/2014 17:56

Natasha has just given birth but the daily mail comments are awful
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2766581/Ritchie-Neville-confirms-Natasha-Hamilton-given-birth-little-girl.html

Who cares how many times someone has been married!

OP posts:
lunar1 · 23/09/2014 18:00

I don't think children having different dads is anything to make a judgment on, but I don't think it's irrelevant. If someone has children with different partners it means you may have to make more compromises than someone who just has children with one partner. It can also be extremely difficult if the dads have very different incomes. You would have to live with your children growing up with completely different lifestyles.

WrigleysBum · 23/09/2014 18:05

Not irrelevant. Although maybe you mean not relevant in certain contexts?
Anyway, I'd imagine it has a pretty major impact logistically, emotionally etc. not necessarily negative, but definitely not irrelevant.

Sp1rals · 23/09/2014 18:06

Yes but all those things are the mother's business, not anybody elses. As long as the children are cared for and safe and given adequate contact with their fathers then who cares.

jackydanny · 23/09/2014 18:06

It's irrelevant to the 'public' I agree.
Relevant to the children themselves.

bodhranbae · 23/09/2014 18:11

Daily Mail comments are always awful.

Having children with different men is the covert way some people have of inferring that the women in question are sluts. The media are incapable of mentioning Ulrika Jonsson without pointing out she has 4 children by 4 different men.

DaisyFlowerChain · 23/09/2014 18:12

Not irrelevant to the children. Some will get to live full time with both parents, some will spend part of their time with their fathers. Different incomes, families, discipline etc all impact on the children.

TheRealAmandaClarke · 23/09/2014 18:13

Not just the mother's business.
Also the children's
I think we underestimate the impact of our lifestyles and relationships on our children.

Having said that, it really is not something that should be used to verbally berate someone for.

Sp1rals · 23/09/2014 18:13

Same with Sinead O' Connor, it's almost used as evidence of her 'crazy'.

smokeandglitter · 23/09/2014 18:17

YABU to read the Daily Fail. Wink

Imo, it is not irrelevant to the children, nor the family and many problems can arise from it. However, there's no need to judge for it and it is irrelevant to the readers of the article because it's none of their business.

WooWooOwl · 23/09/2014 18:17

The link isn't clicky, and I probably wouldn't click on it anyway so I don't know what context you are in here, but no, I don't think it's irrelevant.

It is very very relevant, and can cause all sorts of problems, which is why DH and I decided not to have children together as I have children from a previous relationship. My ex has another child, as he and the person he had the child with are no longer together, he has 50/50 residency. I know my dc sometimes get jealous that their younger brother has more time with their dad than they do, and I know the younger brother gets jealous because my dc get to do things (mainly holidays) that he is unlikely to be able to do as a child. My dcs brother also has two brothers on his mums side, and they get jealous because they get to do even less than their little brother as their dad isn't invloved at all.

I can only see this getting worse as they all get older tbh.

Blended families can be incredibly difficult, and only work as well as traditional family set ups for everyone concerned in very rare circumstances.

Sp1rals · 23/09/2014 18:20

I don't think anybody would argue that it's not relevant to the people immediately concerned, the parents and children. But outside of that it's nobody's business whether you're married or not and how many children you have with how many men.

BoldFossil · 23/09/2014 18:20

It is always the mother judged, even though child lives with mother. I judge absent fathers who start new families tbh. So i do judge but not judging NH

BackforGood · 23/09/2014 18:22

It's relevant in the children's lives. It's relevant in terms of family dynamics.

Presumably these people are some kind of "celebrities"? In which case, they'll just be passing on tit bits of gossip which for some reason interest 'celebrity watchers'. It's not relevant if I meet a new Mum at a Stay and Play Group, but people who are "famous" and like to share their lives in the gossip columns, then, yes, it's part of that non story.

ILovePud · 23/09/2014 18:22

I guess it's as relevant as any other part of Natasha Hamilton's story, her career now seems to be centred on reality TV and magazine articles where she talks about her personal life. Fair play to her, I can't say I'm interested but enough people obviously are to keep magazines and papers featuring her and paying for stories. I don't think the article in the Mail is offensive but the comments section is, as always, full of misogynistic bile.

MollyHooper · 23/09/2014 18:22

YANBU.

If we are lucky this is quite a long life. Situations change, people change.

It takes a very silly person to make their mind up about something they know nothing about.

LemonDrizzleTwunt · 23/09/2014 18:25

Daily Fail = unreasonable. Always.

Fascist rag only read by grandparents and social climbers. I use it to line the cat's litter tray whenever possible- it makes me happy :)

BarbarianMum · 23/09/2014 18:25

I don't think it needs to be in the papers but I think it's pretty naive to think it doesn't have a big and often negative impact on family life. My dad's been married 4 times and had children with 3 of his wives, 2 of whom have also had children with other husbands/ partners. Im fairly close with my siblings and some of my steps and the consensus amongst us is that it was pretty crap in many ways -whether that was being a child in a family with a string of broken relationships or being the child whose dad saw you infrequently/never whilst your siblings had a relationship with their father.

So, fine, not in the newspaper but I won't pretend that its a mother/father's choice with no implications for anyone else either./father the

Bongobaby · 23/09/2014 18:26

On my mothers side I have three sisters all have different dads and I have my own dad. On my fathers side I have six sisters who have three different mothers, five brothers different mothers.
I do not go onto my family history as I find it embrassing. I wish adults would think about how it affects us as children. It confuses me when I sometimes think that yes they are my siblings but none of them are full only half. Yes not our fault but it does have wider implications at times as some of us have never grown up together and are almost strangers to each other.

doziedoozie · 23/09/2014 18:27

As long as the children are cared for and safe and given adequate contact with their fathers then who cares.

But who decides what's adequate??? Oh, and the DCs are 'cared for' - yeah well that's it really - child rearing is a doddle isn't it.

icedfingers · 23/09/2014 18:27

I think it depends on the circumstances.

If all the children have contact with their fathers I can see how it can get a bit complicated/messy. If none of the fathers are involved I don't think there's an problem.
MIL has 4 children, 3 fathers none involved and there's no issue about it, they're all just brother and sister and that's that.

It's not relevant to anyone but her and her family though.

Sp1rals · 23/09/2014 18:28

What's your point dozie, I don't see one in your post.

ArsenicFaceCream · 23/09/2014 18:37

It's about what one can expect of the DM comments page.

Latara · 23/09/2014 18:37

It depends on the circumstances.

A friend of mine has multiple half brothers & sisters from her father; some in their 40s & one is only a toddler - she hardly knows any of them and has found the situation quite upsetting.

My cousin has 2 children by different fathers - she is married to the second child's father and he treats both children identically which is the ideal really.

Preciousbane · 23/09/2014 18:40

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Momagain1 · 23/09/2014 18:44

It is almost always code for judging the mother, even though many celebrity type men have children by multiple wives. When that happens, it is mentioned far less often, sometimes mentioned so little that you forget they have children at all.

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