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indyref 14 - the one with the polling day

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StatisticallyChallenged · 18/09/2014 09:14

Come on in, sit down, and chew your nails with us.

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mummaofthebox · 18/09/2014 09:37

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BakerStreetSaxRift · 18/09/2014 09:38

Good morning everyone!

Well, my vote is in. Polling station was fairly quiet. There was one No Thanks campaigner outside and a group of Yessers. I really don't think that should be allowed, but there you go.

I'm also slightly unnerved about the complete dearth of referendum chat on Radio 4 this morning (in comparison to recently). Does this always happen? Are there rules on reporting on polling day?

member · 18/09/2014 09:38

Thanks Freddie

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/09/2014 09:40

Mumma that link was posted and discussed extensively on the last thread. The language is extremely biased and looks only at campaign promises not reality. I would strongly discourage anyone from making a decision based on it

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WhatWouldFreddieDo · 18/09/2014 09:40

mumma that link was reported and taken down yesterday - it seems a little skewed in its methods.

member · 18/09/2014 09:41

Hmm wasn't it someone with a username related to mothers and boxes who posted on prev thread?

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/09/2014 09:41

Rootypig we're not all saying that Scotland will never be in the eu although it's a possibility. More commenting on salmond's promise that we will get automatic entry on the terms we have now which seems to be highly unlikely and a statement he should never have made

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Littledidsheknow · 18/09/2014 09:42

whatwouldfreddie it's not just Scots living outside of Scotland that are feeling disenfranchised. Although I am an expat Scot myself, it's the effect on the whole of the UK afterwards that's worrying me, not that I can't vote about Scotland.
The effect on the rest of the UK will be significant, and yet we have no say in the dismantling of our country. I'm feeling pretty sick!

WhatWouldFreddieDo · 18/09/2014 09:43

rooty could I make a polite request? We have been on these threads for weeks now and discussed everything under the sun, perhaps you could have a look back through them for some answers,

even though you don't have a vote

grandtheftmanual · 18/09/2014 09:43

Member - think you're right.

PhaedraIsMyName · 18/09/2014 09:44

Rooty as you are talking about unis do you have any comments on Salmond try to pressure the Principal of St. Andrew's to speak up in favour?

Several very vocal posters here were incensed on the part of a stand up comic who might have (nothing proven) had a BBC programme edited.

The First Minister seeking to curb academic independence doesn't bother them.

I know I'm sounding like a broken record but I'm astonished not a single Yes poster here cares.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-independence-alex-salmond-tried-to-influence-st-andrews-principal-who-raised-funding-concerns-9737147.html

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11100754/Revealed-Alex-Salmond-personally-pressurised-St-Andrews-University-head-over-independence-concerns.html

rootypig · 18/09/2014 09:44

Morris, I thought that way when I studied the reforms. Bunch of middle class kids on a piss up (I was one), why should the poorest, who after all pay a larger share of income proportionally in tax (based on some sort of marginal utility) foot the bill?

But the answer was wrong because we were asking the wrong question. Not who should pay, or what, but is the system fit for purpose. Tuition fees were designed to massively expand the system at no extra cost to the government (ha), when what should have been happening was a huge expansion in vocational and technical education.

We now have a situation where the expansion means that it's a brave choice not to get a degree. And yet graduates saddled with debt are programmed to make choices in their own financial interest. An essential part of the Barr reforms (inbuilt designs to encourage people into science and engineering, or public service) fell by the wayside. People want to be high earners, and once they're high earners, they feel they deserve to be, because they paid for the their education! And the rest of us - with degrees that mean little - rot.

Disaster. Total failure of neo classical economics. I know, I was taught it at a leading economics department, by giant brained economists, and none of this occurred to them. Or at least, they didn't mention it Grin

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londonrach · 18/09/2014 09:44

Good luck scotland whatever you decide. Am going to hate tonight.... X

MindReader · 18/09/2014 09:46

Salmond is completely deluded about the EU imo.
I am no big fan of the EU but he is deluded that they will just 'let Scotland back in' with nae bother I think.

WhatWouldFreddieDo · 18/09/2014 09:47

Littledid - yes of course many others also feeling helpless.

I think you have to look to Westminster for answers on that. I think the consensus up here is that they did not have good intelligence from Scotland and did not take the Yes campaign seriously until far too late.

PrettyPictures92 · 18/09/2014 09:48

What happens if it's a complete tie?!? Everything here is really tightly strung, will be glad when it's over!!! When are they announced?

PrettyPictures92 · 18/09/2014 09:48

They being the results obviously, I'm sure BBC news said at 10.45pm tonight? That can't be right though?

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/09/2014 09:49

He sounds a charmer altinkum.

Rooty, please read back, we have discussed this . At this point when you don't have a vote and most of us have already decided coming on and preaching about the economic policy failures of a tuition fee charging system which doesn't even apply to the country which is voting is just going to annoy people.

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Pumpkinpositive · 18/09/2014 09:49

Not gone yet. Still can't fucking decide. Hmm

Right. Steel self. Go now.

browneyedgirl86 · 18/09/2014 09:50

I haven't cast my vote yet as I was starting work at 7. I will be voting after work. Feel nervous. My neighbour text me and told me then queue at the polling station is very long.

A man in my office is announcing loudly he's saving a few beers for once we are independent as it will happen. Apparently!

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/09/2014 09:50

Expecting results around 6-7 prettypictures but there will be local results throughout the night and BBC will be reporting constantly

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WhatWouldFreddieDo · 18/09/2014 09:51

pumpkin and browneyed good luck, don't feel nervous.

Sorry about the numpty in your office brown - remember that's why it's a secret ballot.

Applefallingfromthetree2 · 18/09/2014 09:52

Good luck Scotland from 'down south'

EarthWindFire · 18/09/2014 09:52

wasn't it someone with a username related to mothers and boxes who posted on prev thread?

Yep

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