To think its ok to tell voters that businesses will move south if its a yes?

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If these businesses do intend to shift south of the border if its a yes, shouldn't the voters know this is a possible outcome? Why is it considered unfair for this information to be out? Can somebody please explain? Am I being a bit dense?

It's a straight majority vote, and the winning choice goes ahead. It doesn't matter how 'weak' the result is.

Non-Scots are not happy with the knee-jerk promises of greater devolution, some MPs talking of voting it down. Snd SNP don't like it either. Also it's not terribly well defined and all the three making it have dreadful reputations for u-turns on policy 'promises' plus we haven't had an administratively competent government for ages.

If they were genuine about this being an option, it should have been talked about in detail, and not thrown in bizarrely in the last week.

I do think the vote should need a higher majority than say 51 to push through major change like this.

I'm more talking about what has already been agreed e.g Scotland will have power to vary income tax rate.

Wasn't Alex Salmond brilliant last night on Dimbleby and wasn't Gordon Brown just awful much as I support Labour sorry Gordon

I though Gordon was better than usual. He's had training. I found Alex his usual self.

I pmsl at AS describing a future relationship between iScotland and rUK as "best of pals, great neighbours"

Oh yes indeed, just like Uk and France..........

Wake up fool. rUK will be looking after no 1 - rUK. We will be in competition with iScotland. We will have to do whatever we must to protect Sterling and all our own interests.

If the vote goes Yes I think you will see a hardening of the public in rUK towards scotland - especially in the light of the Nationalist's recent behaviour. Smacks of brownshirts ......

I too think that the attitude of the UK people will harden towards Scotland in the event of a 'yes' vote - you've been dumped - why would you go out of your way to make life easier for the dumper?

I would rather have Gordon Brown negotiating for me than AS - who didn't actually say anything that was both tangible and believable. Although he didn't appear aggressive, as he has before.

I think in the short term its more that politicians won't be keen on negotiating with salmond. It will come down to self interest, just like relations between all the other countries on thd planet.

Did salmond explain why the Scottish would support greater control from Brussels (inevitable as a small country joining the eu) and lower tax for big business?

I'm not sure Merrymouse, watch it, he went through most matters.

I see from the FT that there is a Public Spending formula that pays an extra 19% per head for UK public spending in Scotland than in England. I suppose this may be why they have more taxpayer-funded schemes for health and universities.

The idea that Scotland will have greater freedom to tax and spend, and set their own rates for both, sounds like a good idea to me, whether they are part of UK or a foreign country.

Parts of England are expressing dissatisfaction at the Barnett formula.

It seems to me that if Scotland wants higher public spending it is only fair that they should have higher taxes to pay for it.

Scotland were beaten into submission hundreds of years ago. They are not 'dumping' anyone, they were never willing participants in the first place.

'They are not 'dumping' anyone, they were never willing participants in the first place.'

Really?

Nice bit of revisionist history there.

Scotland were beaten into submission hundreds of years ago. They are not 'dumping' anyone, they were never willing participants in the first place.

Oh please...

Oh for goodness sake, Daughter, have you no realisation that people not suffering from that particular pyscholgical delusion of persecution don't agree that you are living in some ghetto, oppressed by the English? The Act of Union is a contract, an international treaty. Its so embarrassing when fellow Scots come out with pathetic stuff like this.

You are the fool that thought I was having to contemplate moving abroad because me and my husband were so thick as to be taken in by lies made by his employer to vote rig, after all.

Have you no awareness that some people might actually be a little bit better educated and aware than yourself? Maybe you should avail yourself of that supposedly excellent Scottish education system to a higher degree.

Wasn't Alex Salmond brilliant last night on Dimbleby and wasn't Gordon Brown just awful

You might want to look up cult behaviour.

Perhaps you were watching a different tv programme?

Where on earth does the hero worship of this awful man (Salmond) come from? Presumably the same place as the criminal Tommy Sheridan?

Its cringeworthy stuff. Do you have no self imposed level of embarrassment threshold DD?

Tommy Sheridan... what can I say?

I thought Dimbleby was off his game, Brown went a bit too highbrow and Salmond was his usual petulant self (get to the point, man, and answer the bloody questions).

I have never liked Salmond as a politician (don't know the man personally but haven't heard anything nice from people who have met him).

I'm not sure Merrymouse, watch it, he went through most matters.

Actually, more relevant, Do you want more control from Brussels and lower tax for big business?

And isn't the rest of Europe going to be a bit annoyed if Scotland does try to offer lower corporation tax and therefore be even more sniffy sbout Scotland entering the eu?

I suspect that that would be the least of their issues merrymouse. Although Murdoch seems to have expressed concern about the Brussels issue which was in your previous post and that was clearly one of his reasons for backing himself and the Scottish Sun away from Alex Salmond's campaign, best friend or not.

As Robert Kennedy once said, GDP “measures neither our wit nor our courage, neither our wisdom nor our learning, neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country; it measures everything in short except that which makes life worthwhile.”

And Chelsy if I have another personal attack from you I shall have to report it.

Scotland were beaten into submission hundreds of years ago. They are not 'dumping' anyone, they were never willing participants in the first place.

Although to be fair hundreds of years ago the vast majority of english people couldn't vote and their main concern was their next meal.

History moves on.

I have met AS nicename and - although I don't chare his political views - I have to say he was personable and put people at ease. He was a pretty good orator all in all on the particular subject he was talking about (which was not independence by the way).

He is very dough faced though (shallow I know, but I've honestly never seen another human being with flesh so quite like unbaked bread dough).

I do think it is so much easier to have compassion and wit in a country with a stable economy.

It's also a lot easier to say F* off to countries that don't value wit and compassion when you have a bit of cash.