IndyRef 7

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

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I am not pro rising prices I am very much in favour of prices falling it has no effect on my ability to earn a living. George Osborne Nigel Farage and the orange order in their corner are not exactly doing much for the NO vote so I still think it will be Yes. I think Salmond sees the UK as something of a sinking ship and the puppet of the US and I don't blame him

Sorry got a bit over-emotional there. Probably best that I leave this for now and get the washing in!

I'm in favour of prices stagnating while the other economy catches up or falling slowly if necessary. A huge fall isn't a good thing though!

No and a huge fall probably won't happen but a correction is needed.

Alex Salmond and his SNP, and many others in the yes camp, argue that Scotland shouldn't be run from Westminster, and they'd do it all better themselves. I get that bit. But they want to stay in the EU. That means most Scots law will be made in Brussels by unelected bureaucrats and the Scots voice would be so diluted so as to be mute. So the democracy argument is wholly inconsistent as if you are arguing against democratic deficit you don't cede power to the EU.

Let's chuck out Trident and join NATO (which is underpinned by a nuclear deterrent).

Anniehoo - it isn't going to happen. x

The poll being released tonight is predicted to favour the Yes campaign however I think the economic fallout demonstrated today could well change things over the next 9 days.

I'm the exact opposite of you Annie, I to work in the NHS and am voting yes because I don't want the NHS destroyed. ( and if one more person says do I realise the NHS is devolved I will scream )

The markets have already rallied a bit. Any changes spook them

I know people working in the NHS voting no who are fed up of the way it is run here. It seems quite a divided profession. Also there are senior figures coming out on both sides. Like every other issue, it descends into each side waving favourable reports at the other, and trotting out their favoured expert.

Yes the market has rallied a bit but I still think it will give people pause for thought as to what will happen economically in the case of an actual Yes vote.

You#re welcome Wildthong

Looking at the results of that YouGov poll actually shows that people aren't getting the economic arguments really. Which is frightening.

I cannot wait for this to be all over, so that we know either way. Frankly the stress of not knowing - especially as we might well end up moving, if Scotland does vote for independence - is bringing my depression back, full force. I was about to stop therapy, but the way I feel at the moment, I am going to be in therapy for a lot longer.

The whole thing has, in my view, caused so much ill-feeling and hurt between people in Scotland, such huge divisions and wounds, that I don't know how Scotland will heal.

If the result on the 18th is No, I fear that the deeply passionate nationalists will blame those of us who voted No for destroying their dream - and if it is Yes, that will be devastating for me - I am proud and happy to be a citizen of the United Kingdom, and the country I love will be torn apart - without Scotland it will not be the same place.

On a personal level, as I said, we might well end up having to move back to England, away from the friends I have made here, and a place I love living, and will have to start all over again making new friends - and I am not sure I can do that again - it was hard last time, and it will be harder this time.

I sympathise with the SDTG, I find it all quite overwhelming sometimes. We'd probably have to move too - for different reasons both of our roles would be threatened although mine probably more quickly and I'm the main earner.

My sympathies to SDTG. I know there are many people in the same poition. Each one of them a personal disaster.

Out of interest if you can bear to discuss it, have you mentioned your fears to any Yes voting friends/neighbours, and if so what do they say?

too not to!

STTG in one scenario there will be a load of us here on a support thread come the 19th. In the other scenario we will all slip away and pretend we never met on-line..

Sorry: SDTG.

I haven't discussed it much with my Yes voting friends, because my own insecurities make it hard for me to talk about contentious issues with friends - I am afraid that, if I disagree with them, they will stop being my friend - and just the thought makes me shake inside. In my head, I know none of my friends are that shallow or fickle, but the anxiety is too deep seated for me to want to take the risk.

Pathetic, huh.

No, not pathetic. It's exactly what depression does to people, as you know.
I wish there was something I could do to help, other that hope beyond hope that some of those gullible people can come to their senses on the day.

I think it is unfair to call people who vote yes "gullible"

Many Yes voters will have come to their decision after much reason and much debate. Just as many No voters will have come to that decision via their own reasoning and debate.

I'm not sure if it was Statistically or Deedeee who said it was essentially that each viewpoint has a different perception of risk and reward and the relative value of each.

Grovel you don't need to house nuclear weapons to be in NATO.

Posted too soon

....and I'm not passing judgement on either.

Not sure if it's already been linked to but I thought this in the New York Times was interesting. A cautionary economic tale.

Scots, What The Heck?