To want "No Thanks" referendum posters to be available

[GreenPetal94]

My street is overcome with Yes posters and so I thought I might put up some "No Thanks" or "Better Together" window posters. But there are none available on the Better Together websites, and so I searched further. Just nothing easy to printout out that is even A4 big. Meanwhile I find a whole load of Yes posters and these are easy to come by, on and off the internet.

Apart from the large Union Jack down the road, the No voters are remaining signage free.

Am I unreasonable to want Better Together campaign to have thought of this.

affafantoosh that's sad re Facebook. I'm a No campaigner with Yes Facebook friends, and the most I've done is hide posts temporarily from someone who was annoying me (I don't see William Wallace as a reason to vote yes) . I was very nice to the yes campaigner that came to the door as well. fGS we are all still people, just trying to do what we think is right.

affafantoosh I have defriended one Yes supporter, but only because they posted some serious pish! It normally came with a side order of offensive stereotyping and generalisations about No votes and comments about how they just "hadn't done their research" or were "selfish and not bothered about the future, our children's future" etc. Defriending was the safe option!

I defriended one No voter, some sort of cousin of my dad's (dad died 1980, I have no idea if I ever met the cousin but my DSis was doing some geneaology stuff and found him...). I didn't defriend him for his repeated "Salmond is a cunt" type comments; that's hardly political debate or discourse, and can be easily ignored. I actually defriended him for some outrageous homophobic comments. He doesn't seem to have noticed, and undoubtedly I would have bugged the fuck out of him in recent months anyway, so no real harm done. :)

affafantoosh

That's just it. People saying they are afraid of bricks through their windows says more about their anxieties (which I do understand them having) than it does about the way people would actually react. I am sure if windows featuring "No" signs had been smashed then it would be on the news.

At the end of the day there are both nice people and less nice people involved in both campaigns. I've had people say (to my face) that Yes voters are probably illiterate, and that they would "fall out with me" if I thought about voting Yes! I have been told to f* off etc. But I've also had courteous and even enjoyable conversations with No voters - especially on here!

Of course this issue is divisive but I think that thus far it's also been an impressively peaceable campaign on both sides and I hope it remains that way. Given that issues of independence have in the past in other countries involved very real violence I think it's something to be very grateful and even proud of that the decision-making process here has been democratic and peaceful.

I don't even dare comment on FB, on things that my friends who are Yes supporters are posting.

Look at the way Jim Murphy has been targeted by Yes campaigners - eggs thrown, his supporters heckled and a pensioner surrounded by Yes campaigners, so he had to rescue this person - and now Alex Salmond has said that the people who are going to Murphy's street corner meetings '..should carry on doing what they are doing..'!! I know he has previously condemned bad behaviour on the campaign trail, but this is, at best, a mixed message.

I have to say that I am seriously concerned about posting this.

I am in the fortunate position of living abroad at the moment. I can watch things from afar.
I agree with a lot of posters that no matter the outcome, things will never be the same in the UK again.
I am British, I have a British passport. I was born in England and raised in Scotland.
I can see both points of view and see why it's becoming such a close call.
I think it is the proverbial 'Pandora's Box' The UK will never be the same no matter what happens on the 18th.
That makes me sad

I live in Edinburgh and for every 40 Yes posters I see one very lonely No Thanks poster. I just don't think No voters are making a song and dance of it as much. I saw a lot of Yes campaigners at the weekend handing out stickers, badges and leaflets. Not once have I seen anyone promoting the No campaign. Not once.

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I think people are afraid to display No campaign material, Strawberry.

SDTG Don't be concerned, I don't think anyone on MN will give you abuse for it. :)

I don't think just one side can be vilified. There is bad behaviour on the No side too (Yes campaigner pensioner assaulted, lady kicked to the ground, arson attack on a Yes shop), but those are just idiots, as is the person who egged Jim Murphy. I've come close to being hit once whilst campaigning, but I don't see that person as representing the entire No campaign.

Those of us who wish to campaign peacefully should continue to do so and set an example which hopefully will outweigh the bad behaviour.

SDTG Alex Salmond did condemn the idiot who threw an egg at Jim Murphy. You get idiots on both "sides" simply because you get idiots in life. Alex Salmond himself I'm sure I read was chased and intimidated on the motorway by a No campaigner.

Our neighbour's front garden with yes flags in it was vandalised last night - the flagpoles snapped and the flags ripped.

rainbow that behaviour is just petty and childish. I bet the kind of people who do that probably won't get off their arse to vote anyway.

My posters arrived today, Mumsnet is a great community

I do suspect that some of the vandalism is just idiotic vandals rather than people who actually give a crap. I saw someone declaring that their property had been "vandalised by a no voter" and felt like pointing out that there was a reasonable chance the person who did it probably isn't even old enough to blooming vote!

StrawberryCheese - I'm surprised you've not come across no campaigning in Edinburgh. Have you had anything through your door? Jim Murphy was in the city centre today and Ian Murray did a similar street corner event on his constituency yesterday. There's been a lot of door knocking and leafleting in some areas that I know of.

We've had no doorknockers from either side - Edinburgh too. One or two leaflets, that's it. It is a quiet, very small street so they might not realise it's here. I've only seen one lot of one street canvassers too.

That's interesting. We've had tons from both sides. Do you get much literature or canvassing during normal elections Statistically?

Erm...we do get a bit actually. We do live in an area which is probably pretty dominated by financial services staff so it might be nobody is bothering with us!

Could be! Maybe neither side thinks there's much in the way of undecided votes so concentrating their resources elsewhere (like round my way). I think my local area has a concentration of target voters for both sides.

I think that's probably exactly it - they'll be going for the swing voter areas.

Enough said regarding fear to stand up in support of better together!
I have countless economic reasons I believe we are better together as a United Kingdom and I along with the vast majority of my friends and family will be voting no. I have every faith Scotland will get more powers as the time is right and we have started the ball rolling with our own parliament. A federal state is the way forward and it's looking more likely that will be the future,where each individual country within the United Kingdom will have more power to look after their own taxes etc but with a central government taking care of our safety with the armed forces etc.
It's sad that no voters are scared to show the same outward show of their beliefs in better together and we don't want a future like that in Scotland either.

Incidentally,if your undecided,just consider how you will feel when you waken up on September 19th,the yes vote has won and from that day forward you will have absolutely no support from the rest of the Uk, all our financial service jobs ( 200,000 jobs) will go to England, you have no British army or navy and you haven't a clue about currency,other than fingers crossed for for the pound,which we may or may not get. That decision will lie within he rest of UK,which be greatly affected too,so they can do what they like with us.

Incidentally,if your undecided,just consider how you will feel when you waken up on September 19th,the yes vote has won and from that day forward you will have absolutely no support from the rest of the Uk, all Scotland's financial service jobs ( 200,000 jobs) will go to England, you have no British army or navy and you haven't a clue about currency,other than fingers crossed for for the pound,which we may or may not get. That decision will lie within the rest of UK,which will be greatly affected too,so they can do what they like with us.

There was a big group of Yes supporters out yesterday in Edinburgh on that bit just before the St James's Centre. They had somebody dressed in a giant Alastair Darling papier mache head dancing around and a group of schoolgirls wailing singing 'I Want To Break Free' which I thought was a bit of a silly way to campaign.

I ignored them all. I'll listen to sensible campaigners, not ones who are doing something to get a cheap reaction.