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To not let DP use my car to get to work?

92 replies

unlucky83 · 31/08/2014 00:03

DP is a crap driver - lots of minor scrapes...and must have had 8 not major but biggish accidents in the last 15 years...4 involving other drivers.

He dented my new car (with DD1 in) on a roundabout when he was in the wrong lane ...(tbf he learned to drive on the other side of the road) so my dad gave us some money for him to have refresher lessons - he refused to do them. After that he can only drive my car in an emergency.
He never looks properly, has no patience, no concentration, doesn't think.

He once backed into a parked car -it was dark, late at night and the car park (private) was usually empty - he didn't even look, just reversed at speed...
He has hit one of those rising bollards - knew it was no entry but cba going round so he followed a bus.... He also got 3 pts on his licence for going up a one way the wrong way.
He's a named driver on my policy- puts my premium up (we each pay for our own cars) -but last time I checked it would cost more to take him off.

Also creates hassle for me - as English isn't his first language I used to make phone calls for him and help fill in his forms etc - not so much anymore...and he doesn't know anything about cars so always asks my opinion - I'm fed up (I have never had a bump or points on my licence)

Also his current car is my mum's old car - my dad had been meaning to get my mum a new one -but DP wrote his last one off in an accident (cos it was old more than really badly damaged) - and so my dad got a new one in a hurry and sold it to him for half what it was worth (he was going to give to him -but decided he should pay something to maybe make him be more careful) And he really doesn't appreciate the help he was given - my DB drove it here (300 miles) etc...
Anyway this morning he hit a low wall, mashed the bottom of his car - oil pouring out, engine making a funny noise. He was too embarrassed to go to /phone the local garage....wanted to take it somewhere else , didn't want the Dcs to know etc. I had a look no way could he drive it even the quarter of a mile to the local garage...never mind anywhere else
I phoned the garage for him ...they came to get it - finger crossed the engine is alright and it is repairable -they will try and do it on Monday ...But it might be a write off - it is an old car - and it has just cost £400 to get it through its MOT less than 2 weeks ago. Luckily he is ok for money and things like that come from his spending money...
Then I cleaned up the oil off the road - he helped a bit...

Any way after his initial embarrassment he said things like ...oh well these things happen don't they - everyone has crashes, no harm done etc etc
No that isn't true - I haven't, none of my friends or family have..or they have one or two in a lifetime. He was going slow but admitted he didn't see the wall cos he was looking at his phone (he was on a private road - so no danger of points etc) ...
He has been on holiday for a week - due back next week but he might be off on Monday. He works early shift - can't get public transport he needs a car. He realised this at midday - told him to phone his boss - he didn't instead he phoned other people until eventually about 5pm someone told him he was working on Mon. He said oh well I'll have to take your car then.
Erm - No - phone your boss and explain - see if you can swap - he has sent his boss a text...wouldn't phone - no reply and boss is off tomorrow - apparently a taxi will cost £30 ..he HAS to take my car ...
So AIBU to think - he should sort himself out - and suffer a bit -pay the taxi - because he just doesn't take it seriously ...everyone around him helping him out - even the mechanics at the garage - they are off today really - just in working on their own cars...
I haven't planned my week out next week yet -but I do have a lot on...don't really need another restriction.

I should really go into work (mainly work from home) - about 10-15 min walk away - but I had a DVT in July and that is quite far for me to walk - I'd rather not risk it. And not being 100% well I like the security of knowing I have transport to get medical help if I need to. (actually day after I have an dr appt and I couldn't make it without a car after school drop off)

Also DD1 goes to school miles away - if she misses the bus she can't get in until 10.30pm unless I take her...(not a regularly occurrence but has happened)
And I just shouldn't be inconvenienced (more than I have already) because he has messed up again...
and £30 taxi and a horrendous bus journey back may just make him realise that it is not 'no harm done' ...Angry

OP posts:
Icimoi · 31/08/2014 07:13

I don't understand why it's more expensive to take him off your insurance, if you do it at the next renewal? Are you declaring all these accidents to your insurers?

Goodadvice1980 · 31/08/2014 07:28

YANBU!!

He sounds a bloody liability. Does he have a full UK driving licence?

I would not even entertain having someone as disrespectful as this anywhere near my car or on my insurance policy.

OP, he is incredibly selfish and entitled. Does he have any good qualities??

And don't even think about lending him your car!!

OneHandFlapping · 31/08/2014 07:29

And the points. You have to declare those too!

CSIJanner · 31/08/2014 07:29

Stop enabling him. He dangerous and private road or not, he shouldn't have been looking at his phone. Your OP is like he almost doesn't give a damn about other road users - no fatalities, no harm. Tell him to buy a bike. He can get to work and see first hand how scary entitled drivers on the road are.

Goodadvice1980 · 31/08/2014 07:33

Tell him to buy a bike. He can get to work and see first hand how scary entitled drivers on the road are

^ This from CSIJanner!!

Rosa · 31/08/2014 07:39

Language and driving on the other side of the road are no excuses . i know loads of people who have done just that.
He needs refresher lessons as others have said and takenoff your insurance .
As for the comments well everybody has accidents scrapes etc - he is asking for reassurance - erm no .

ChelsyHandy · 31/08/2014 07:53

The solution is to stop enabling him from driving. Why on earth are you and your family running around providing him with cheap car replacements? He could kill someone next time! He's got it very cushy with you - how much does he cost to keep in cars so he's "all right for spending money?" Does he buy you cars?

Commuting by bike might be actually very good for him in terms of developing road sense.

ipswichwitch · 31/08/2014 07:54

Hell no. It's pure luck he hasn't killed somebody - even your DC has been in the car during one of his many accidents, yet he still shoes no remorse or understanding of how bad this is. He has learned nothing from each time he's crashed, hasn't even tried to improve his driving, just shrugs it off as "everyone has bumps and scrapes". Is that how he thinks the other drivers involved feel? How long will it be before he seriously injures someone?

He needs to be off the road now until he takes this seriously, gets driving lessons, wakes the fuck up to how dangerous he has been and only then would I even consider the possibility of letting him anywhere near my car. Learning to drive on the other side of the road is no excuse - I know plenty of people who did and they are careful considerate drivers who have never had a single accident. And it certainly doesn't excuse why he was messing about on his phone while driving.

OnIlkleyMoorBahTwat · 31/08/2014 07:55

My guess is that he is from an EU country where driving standards are a little more 'relaxed' than the UK, such as Italy or Malta, therefore he is perfectly entitled to drive here, but YANBU, he will ruin your insurance record, so if he wants to drive let him do it in his own car with his own money only. Most of the behaviours and little prangs you mention wouldn't raise an eyebrow Southern Europe TBF.

eddielizzard · 31/08/2014 08:15

no bloody way would i let him near my car. he's going to have to figure it out isn't he?

halfwildlingwoman · 31/08/2014 08:19

No chance. Looking at his phone? That's not someone who's a bit scatty, that's downright dangerous. He wouldn't be on my insurance or driving my DC anywhere until he's had that refresher course.

FunkyBoldRibena · 31/08/2014 08:49

No - because if he has this little respect then it will leave you with no car as well, plus he might actually kill someone. I agree with telling him to get himself a bike. 'On your bike mate'.

He just doesn't give a shit, by the looks of it. I couldn't be with someone like that, I just couldn't. They have to give a shit, surely?

hamptoncourt · 31/08/2014 08:59

YANBU and I agree with PP that it sounds like it is a miracle he hasn't injured/killed someone yet.

No way would I be letting my DC in a car with him. Do you still let him transport your DC?

Taxi or bike. He sounds like a total knobber to be honest.

TheMaddHugger · 31/08/2014 09:02

NO WAY in Hell would I let him even NEAR my car. No Way, NO just NO eys I am shouting at you

Buy him a bloody push bike.

Missunreasonable · 31/08/2014 09:10

Buy him a bike, you can get a new one for less than £100 and a second hand one for much less. He shouldn't be driving as he isn't alert enough or careful enough to be behind the wheel.
Do not let him drive your car and pray that his car is not economical to repair or that he cannot get insurance die to his level of risk as he should not be driving.
A bicycle is the only thing that he should be in control of.
Can't he get a bus to work?

GoblinLittleOwl · 31/08/2014 09:23

What are you thinking? It is your responsibility to prevent him from driving; you know he is dangerous and will cause a really serious accident. Remove him from your insurance immediately and do not allow your children in any car with him until he has taken a course of driving lessons.

SolidGoldBrass · 31/08/2014 09:27

This man must be amazingly good looking and a genius in bed. Otherwise why would you be so keen to bail him out all the time and allow him to do what he wants?

VelvetEmbers · 31/08/2014 09:33

I'm surprised he hasn't been ordered to go on a Crash Awareness course with that many accidents. My DH had a spate of accidents a few years ago - couple of minor not paying attention in slow traffic shunts and a couple of big ones that weren't actually his fault. He was told he had to go on a course and if he had another accident within 3 years he would be prosecuted.

The course turned out to be very good and really improved his driving. Sounds like your DP would benefit greatly from attending.

I agree with everyone else that no way should you let him take your car.

DifferentCountrySameShit · 31/08/2014 09:37

Does he actually have a full uk license?

It sounds like he shouldn't be on the road!

BlackandGold · 31/08/2014 09:37

I would imagine not all the accidents have been reported to the insurance company.

This man sounds like a dangerous liability on the road.

PuppyMonkey · 31/08/2014 09:51

LTB Wink

LividofLondon · 31/08/2014 11:03

YANBU. He shouldn't be on the road, he's a liability and worse still he doesn't see the problem or want to improve. I'd certainly not let him use your car or drive the children anywhere. It's about time he took responsibility for his actions, and stayed off the road (yes to the suggestion of him cycling) until taking driving lessons and adjusting his attitude. Get him off your insurance, even if that costs you in the short term.

unlucky83 · 31/08/2014 11:04

The 8 more major ones have been reported to the insurance - the minor scrapes and bumps haven't (like knocking his wing mirror off on a barrier countless times).

He has an accident about every 2-3 years ...they come off your driving record after 3 years I think it is ..so he usually only has one, maybe two current at a time...he even has no claims cos he has protected....
And to be fair the phone thing, I didn't explain that very well - it was private road that doesn't really go anywhere...no chance of small children, no one around so not really a danger to others...he was turning round, he got a text and looked at his phone as he pulled forward - it was the lack of concentration/awareness that is just typical...
And he does have a full UK licence - but whoever said Italy is nearly right - France! Used to think typical French driver - but its past a joke now...
I don't think he is really a danger to others - these are stupid, slow speed things....when he just isn't paying attention because it isn't 'important' - like the most recent one and the points - his friend lives at that end of the one way- he couldn't see the point of going all the way round, the police saw him and instead of pretending he didn't know he told the police he was being careful...
In fact he was driving when a lorry pulled into us on a motorway - totally not our fault - and he managed to avoid the crash - and not sure I would have - because he was paying attention! It is when he doesn't the problems start...

I think I am going to suggest the lessons again ...and I'm not going to lend him mine ...even though he keeps asking me today - because he does need realise that it is an absolute pain for everyone else...

OP posts:
itsbetterthanabox · 31/08/2014 11:17

Yanbu! I don't want this man on the roads. Multiple accidents should start to count towards points imo.
He needs the driving lessons urgently. Do you have children?

Inertia · 31/08/2014 11:25

Stop excusing him.

If he won't pay attention on the roads the he shouldn't be driving.

It's just luck that the only damage so far has been to his car and not to people.

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