Would it be unreasonable to not accept work in these circumstances

[Notacs]

I have a professional qualification.

I have the opportunity to work again (had a baby in April) very part time and temporary. Work when my qualification is recognised is about £120 per day.

But if my qualification is ignored I can be offered work at £60 per day. Would it be unreasonable to turn it down?

I certainly wouldn't bother for a net amount of less than £20 per day.

If the need TAs and only TAs then it comes down to how badly you need to money and £20 a day after expenses is just plain daft.

If it's because you want to get out of the house for the sake of your sanity that's another matter.

But I wouldn't worry about what the agency thinks if you turn it down. you are a qualified teacher and you can command the pay rate of a qualified teacher. No-one with any sense would question why you would turn down work at the lower rate.

I am surprised that a school would want a qualified teacher working as a TA to be honest. I would have imagined it would cause a bit of a 'too many chiefs' atmosphere.

And I am another one who thinks that right from the beginning of the thread you have strangely chippy and brittle.

Notacs I think you should reset your password, possibly even namechange, and start a new thread in Relationships about your marriage. Because it doesn't sound like it's very healthy at the moment.

I'm not a school teacher, but we had a friend who did this. She was off for a few years and then decided to get a job as a teacher (she was one). She went back as a substitute and was being called every morning to tell her that she would be at x school or y school. She only did 4 days I think. And she managed to work till only 2.30 to allow her to pick her child up from school. After a while, one of the schools offered her a permanent job and it's worked really well. At the start, she was being contacted by the agencies I think, but v quickly on, it became phone calls from the HT or equivalent.

I would imagine this might be an academic question anyway as it sounds very much as though your husband will be completely unsupportive of any attempt you make to return to work or indeed to build up any support networks outside the home.

But to answer the question I think that to work for the lower rate is exploitation. If people didn't buy in to this agencies wouldn't get away with it.

i am a band 4, for example.
these jobs, particularly part time, are very few and far between.
i went for a band 3.
i heard a woman, before i was interviewed, questioning why I was a 4 going for a 3, then saying i don't want her anyway.. I now no longer go for a band 3 as I feel once I go down a band I will not be able to rise back.

you are in situation where you will be a band 4 say but could work as a band 3, so slightly different.

You seem to want to hold out for a 4, go for it.

Oh my goodness, I think all the posters who Re pestering the OP about her marriage, and reprimanding her about her posting style are the ones bein rude. She has apologised several times saying she really wasn't trying to be rude, and also explained why she didn't give out all the details. People should respect that.

And those who said her post was incomprehensible without those details, really? It was quite simple, and I guessed it was a teacher/TA scenario or a nurse/carer scenario type thing. But even if you couldn't work that out, so what? It still made sense.

OP - do not accept work that you are overqualified for. It makes me so cross that schools are now using TA's (not teacher trained) for teaching responsibilities, never mind sneakily putting qualified teachers in place as TAs to save money.

Do not sell yourself short. The poster who said that men don't do this half as often as women is correct, and we need to take a stand. It doesn't matter what your reasons for returning to work are, be positive and believe in your worth, as this will give you the outcome you need.

Your best bet is to start looking for hard to fill positions like maternity covers. Sometimes schools will accept someone for a couple do days just to get someone decent and consistent in front of the class even if the role is for more days. Look out for these jobs and then send in your application making it clear which days you can do and you may be surprised. Once you are in a position then it will be easier to get more work as you will have some recent references and some good word of mouth info. If you have a child at school you could also mention there that you are looking for supply work and you may find this works for you. Good luck and I hope you manage to start building up your funds for the future.

I agree Wellthatsit

And as for "strangely chippy and brittle" I'll simply say I'd have expected a bit more insight and empathy.

I won't say any more as I don't want to make the OP more anxious and because I suspect I might be in trouble in terms of the new peace and love AIBU if I said what I thought of some of the responses.

I wouldn't completely diss the idea of working as a TA.

When I was supply there was a point where I was getting desperate and the agency offered me one day as a TA at a good, local school. I took it because I needed the money.
Turned out the school liked me a lot and from then on they asked for me specifically to cover odd days as a teacher. This went on for many months until I found something more permanent. I loved going back to that school!

What I'm trying to say is - sometimes it is good to go in, let them see you, be nice, friendly and work well and they will more likely call you back and you will get the rate that you deserve.

Thank you. Thank you so much the people who understood. I think you know what I'm doing and why.

He won't support a return to work but won't really need to know any more than he has to. The thing with nursery is I can take a hit to an extent - it's £40 a day but I don't want to get into the pattern of taking cover supervision work (it's not being a TA it's basically doing an identical job for less money) and only earning £20. Less than that really depending where the school is.

I need a bit of a cushion behind me because of situation re DH. And he is clever and I know it's easy to recognise people on here.

Ilove, it wasn't peaceful and loving to me!

go for the higher amount. give it a couple of months. if nothing, then go for the lower.

but sounds to me like your dh is an arse. i hope things get better for you.

Good luck notacs

Definitely hold out for the higher amount. £20 per day (after child care) is really poor. My school uses agencies AND our own supply staff through reccomendations.

Especially considering there were responses from people some of whom pride themselves on the support they offer in Relationships.

Yet you've been told you're rude, arsey, that someone can't be arsed to help and people have persisted in telling you to seek advice in Relationships when it's not something you posted to discuss.

Anybody who "prides themselves" on sticking around when, having asked a simple question to clarify when confused, is subjected to a rude response needs to find better ways to spend their time, IMO

I really did not mean to be rude or arsey, there's no point posting in relationships as I know the consensus would be a universal LTB with bells on, and then everyone would probably have a go at me for not doing so immediately - I'm trying but I need some form of income even if it's small.

I KNOW my DH is an arse, and it's getting worse and worse (the looking at online activity is recent and an example of how things are getting worse) but I can't just walk out. Yet.

Any - I have apologised for that now for - what, it must be at least six times now. To be honest there's a point where it just becomes meaningless. Last night I was tired out, worried about next week and it's implications, have my first period since having DD and have the backache, cramps and low mood accompanying it and to be blunt was absolutely shitting myself. That jitteriness, anxiety, whatever, probably DID come across in my posts but wasn't the intention and I really have said that a few times now, I just don't know what people want me to do now.

Fine AF. The OP tried to explain, apologised and you still said you couldn't be arsed to help.
I just thought most people could read between the lines better than they apparently can.
And I still think the OP has been subjected to people asking stuff she didn't want to disclose and had been offered advice she didn't ask for.

Sorry cross post there.

OP, my last response was directed at ILS, not you

You have since further clarified and explained why you reacted as you did

However, it pisses me off when later posters jump in, with the benefit of hindsight, and have a go just for the sake of it.

AF - I'm so sorry it's my fault. Ilove just twigged to the situation, I think, and she was just being kind as she is a very kind person.

Please don't think it's her as it isn't. It's me.

Lots of cross posts there. OP, you don't need to do anything further. Unfortunately your thread will now get taken over by people who smell a bit of simple argy bargy and circle in like sharks to have a go at other posters in the guide of "supporting" the OP

Well I doubt it :) but I'm pretty sure ilove didn't fall into that category, I think she just cottoned onto the situation as I posted about DH under a previous name.

Precisely· AF I recognised the OP so to speak.Please don't suggest I have some kind of ulterior motive for being critical of some of the responses made on this thread and being somewhat surprised by and disappointed in some who made them.

I just felt the OP wasn't getting what she'd seemingly asked for.