to wonder where some fat blokes get their seemingly boundless self-confidence with women from...

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Whereas others really seem to struggle on the dating/romance front?

And do early experiences have much to do with it?

The same place some fat women get it from I expect?

I think it's all to do with your personality/outlook on life maybe.

Whhat?! As opposed to fat women..? I dont really understand the question sorry :/

I guess it could apply to either sex really.

Because a fat man can't possible be more than just fat.

Are you trying to boost your confidence op? This just seems a bit goady atm

Yes, TBH, notagain.

My weight's always been an issue for me when it comes to dating, or at least how I perceive my chances. And yet some blokes who are even bigger than me seem to have no problems finding romance.

I'm just curious as to what their secret is?

They have special sexy sex vibes INSIDE THEIR FAT

Ugh. They're just bloody people!

Ohhh well I suppose men over 25 arent under much pressure at all to be slim.And usually get by with a cheeky sense of humour and good at socialising :) women have it so hard. All I can say is to be yourself but to spread yourself around, join clubs, strike up conversations in a positive way..

Personality really does count, happy, self-confident people tend to do well on the romance front. Plenty of beautiful, skinny people struggle to make relationships work...

Because they know that actually they are kind, thoughtful, solvent and a good catch? Because they appreciate how confidence can be just as attractive as a slim physique?

Or, you know, they're just so stupid that they don't realise that they should be at home being ashamed of themselves for being overweight and not embarrassing women by being attracted to them.

The loveliest man I know is a "fat bloke". He's bald and over 50 too! He's got scores of female friends, is never short of a date or anything else!

He's also kind, witty, generous of his time and efforts with people, wickedly, side splittingly funny, clever and gentle.

The last thing I see is "a fat bloke".

OK, just seen your latest post and apologies for being snippy, but my first point still stands. Physical attraction may be a factor in relationships, but it is by no means the only one and by focussing on it yourself, you are doing a disservice to all your other assets.

Why shouldn't they be confident? Why shouldn't you?

I'm sure you have plenty to feel confident about

Hello OP.

Are you suggesting that we must accept our status as sad fleshsacks, blobbling hopelessy on the fringes of society and resigned to despairing self-abuse?

If so, my opinion and experience differs greatly. Would you like a biscuit?

Unlike women, men haven't been led to believe that their looks are all they have to offer, I suppose. So maybe guys who are overweight can just be confident that they have something else to offer? That's my best guess.

Not in the slightest, DTTYC! I'm just curious as to how some fat blokes seem to be able to put themselves right out there.

Have to say, it does seem to be a bit easier for the ones who are more traditionally laddish/blokey.

vagendamagazine.com/2014/08/dear-hollywood-why-does-seth-rogen-get-all-the-hotties/

I think this article may be of interest to you, op. It sort of touches on what I think you're trying to say.

My DH and I were recently in the car waiting at traffic lights as an extremely attractive woman crossed the pedestrian crossing in front of us.

She looked amazing absolutely glowing, striding along with her lovely hair streaming out behind her and a wearing a really stylish outfit.

I would guess that she must have been a size 18-20.
My DH commented that she really epitomised the notion that beauty comes from within. She wasn't attractive 'for a big girl' or 'in spite of her size' she was attractive because her personality shone through in every step she took.

Well said bright

Thanks Anti

Because the media is filled with overweight blokes - showing it's ok for men to be different sizes, but not for women.

Because fat does not equal ugly, and relationships are not primarily about looks.

Confidence is sexy!
That is all

Also, when you land on us, or vice versa, we go "boing" rather than "clonk". We run hotter too, which makes us nice to warm your feet on.

Because men are not subjected to the same pressures as women to look a certain way. Are there celebrity magazines devoted to the cellulite/'bikini body' equivalent of male celebrities? Do fat, hirsute men walking topless down the street eating a kebab continually have abuse roared at them from cars and scaffolding for the heinous crimes of being fat, exposing flesh and eating in public? No reason not to be confident if you haven't been led to believe your value resides in being pretty, slim, groomed, made up and epilated.