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AIBU?

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Was I little harsh in what I said to this group of mums, they were BU but I feel bad now and wonder were we all really that naive once?

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Deedaadeedaadee · 23/08/2014 20:03

At a soft play area with DH, DS1 (3 years) and DS2 (1 year). I was in the little baby area with DS2, next to what sounded like a group of mums from a NCT class or similar, they all had babies around 5-6mths and from what they were saying all seemed to be their first child. BTW wasn't massively earwigging but DS2 was playing right next to them so impossible not to hear! Anyway they were discussing parenting techniques to teach their children manners as they grow up, cue DS1 to launch into a temper tantrum in the adjacent area as DH had just told him we needed to leave in a few minutes. Now DS1 is a relatively well behaved, very normal 3 year old, we have the odd temper tantrum when he is tired, unwell or just in a mood but overall I can't complain, he is a lovely boy. This group of mums were looking over to him and DH discussing how their children would never behave like that and it all came down to the parenting. They made a whole list of assumptions about how my son obviously had no boundaries, no consistency and was probably playing up for his dad as his parents must be separated and he was struggling to come to terms with it so giving dad hell on his 'contact day'. I kid not! I was gobsmacked - and the tantrum wasn't even that bad! I was rather annoyed and felt very protective of ds1, we're by no means the perfect parents, but we think very carefully about our parenting, give it our all and have two thriving, healthy, lovely boys so can't be too bad. I got up and made it very clear DS1 was my son by calling him over to me and DS2, this broke his attention from tantrum (all you really need to do to get him to move on from it) and he came over with DH, gave me a hug and DH a hug, and then (thank goodness!) was wonderfully cute helping his baby brother climb out the ball pit and to his pushchair. One of the mum's looked at me horrified realising I must have heard everything and started to apologise. I just calmly said (something along the lines of) 'just remember this conversation when your child is kicking off in the supermarket or park or wherever and you feel everyone is staring at you and judging you as a terrible mother, and from the corner of the place you will get a knowing smile of support from a mum who has been there. You will be so grateful to that mum at that point and it'll make all the stares and comments of judgements feel less important. It'd be nice if parents could stick together rather than passing absurd judgements. No child is perfect all the time and if you really expect your children to be I think you will be hugely disappointed.' I just walked off with the children and a confused DH and that was that. DH said their faces were a picture - though he at that point had no idea what I was going on about!

After we left though I had to chuckle to myself - I am sure I had thought DS1 would always be an easy and perfect child and if I just parented him right he would always be polite, well behaved etc, though I thought this group of mums very rude - I did wonder if we all start out a little naive?!

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KittenOverlord · 23/08/2014 20:23

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ladygracie · 23/08/2014 20:23

Good for you - well thought out & it sounds like you were very calm. Hopefully they will remember this next time.

theclockticksslowly · 23/08/2014 20:27

I think that was the perfect response!

(One I would only have thought to say about ten minutes after walking out seething! Smile)

JADS · 23/08/2014 20:32

Fabulous response. They were very rude.

Tabby at all

Username12345 · 23/08/2014 20:43

Grin Love it!

Wish I could have seen their faces.

NellysKnickers · 23/08/2014 20:50

Brilliant response OP and so true. I must admit I was a bit judgey. Then ds2 came along. He climbs on tables/bookcases/worktops, screams a lot, hurls food, hits, pinches, all things I used to judge on, but now I know.............Blush

NellysKnickers · 23/08/2014 20:51

He's also incredibly lovely, sweet, funny and squidgy,

eddielizzard · 23/08/2014 20:54

ahhh wonderful! good for you!

temporaryusername · 23/08/2014 20:57

Don't worry OP, their time will come Grin.

I think what you said was very generous actually. I would have given you a knowing smile and I'm not even a mum. I have been the child though Smile.

BackspaceEnter · 23/08/2014 21:10

I think what you said to them was awesome Grin

Purplepoodle · 23/08/2014 21:17

Lol obviously no experience with the toddler years mwhahaha

weeonion · 23/08/2014 21:30

Wow
to your very eloquent response
And to their judginess.

I have never been part of a mums group, NCT or otherwise who were like that. More like the one others describe where we all fretted over how rubbish we were / would be!

weeonion · 23/08/2014 21:30

Wow
to your very eloquent response
And to their judginess.

I have never been part of a mums group, NCT or otherwise who were like that. More like the one others describe where we all fretted over how rubbish we were / would be!

weeonion · 23/08/2014 22:49

Wow
to your very eloquent response
And to their judginess.

I have never been part of a mums group, NCT or otherwise who were like that. More like the one others describe where we all fretted over how rubbish we were / would be!

weeonion · 23/08/2014 22:49

Wow
to your very eloquent response
And to their judginess.

I have never been part of a mums group, NCT or otherwise who were like that. More like the one others describe where we all fretted over how rubbish we were / would be!o

weeonion · 23/08/2014 22:49

Wow
to your very eloquent response
And to their judginess.

I have never been part of a mums group, NCT or otherwise who were like that. More like the one others describe where we all fretted over how rubbish we were / would be!o

OhTheDrama · 23/08/2014 23:01

YANBU and I think you handled yourself very well. To actively talk about your DH and child was pretty vicious and nasty and they should definitely think back to this incident with shame when it's their own child doing this.

I have to admit in my single, child-free years that I have silently judged at times and oh how I have got my comeuppance with my two now and again!

Tikimon · 23/08/2014 23:36

DD's only 5 months and I can tell already I'm in for some interesting tantrums. Girl can scream. Grin

Offler · 24/08/2014 00:12

Dd was quite a well behaved toddler (not carried that on into older years...) Ds is a different story, in a way I'm quite pleased to have one that throws themselves dramatically on the floor and wails as if it's the end of the world, I can finally join the club Grin

PowerPants · 24/08/2014 01:01

Wonderful response and SO true. Well done Dee.

Greyhound · 24/08/2014 04:29

What a coven of cheeky witches.

Brabra · 24/08/2014 04:44

that is a very well thought out speech. Do your kids give you reason to use it a lot then?

MexicanSpringtime · 24/08/2014 04:47

Very well said, OP: Though I am not in a position to criticise anyone here as I was that person who judged the mothers of children with tantrums and then had a dd who had terrible tantrums. And it only makes it worse when you think everyone around is judging you as you would have. Yuck!

Letticebonhamcarter1974 · 24/08/2014 05:01

I think your response was perfectly pitched and well judged. All but one (Daphne, my eldest daughter) had/has the occasional temper fit, usually in front of a gaggle of other mothers.

The only time I ever responded was when youngest daughter was making her feelings suddenly and loudly known in airport arrivals, and an elderly woman (with her husband) said in a accidentally-on-purpose-very-pronounced-hiss "isn't that child a horror?" I replied in full voice, "yes, it's too much isn't it? I'm afraid she takes after me completely!" The elderly lady just gaped at me and marched off muttering to her husband.

Lettice :o)

Sausages123 · 24/08/2014 05:10

I probably wouldn't have bothered saying anything as would have been judging them myself for wasting cash taking a 5/6 month old out to soft play.

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