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to let DC 4+6 watch harry potter?

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Happypenguin2014 · 06/08/2014 09:44

My friend thinks we are. Every night for the past 6 days we've had movie night with munchies and harry potter 1-6. Kids have actually loved it and glued to the TV! I thought they would be scared but nope.

Aibu? I want Us to go harry potter world in a few months lol

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IHeartKingThistle · 06/08/2014 10:50

Altinkum Shock

You really can't see the difference between Call of Duty (war, realism, blood, guns) and Tom and Jerry (cartoon animals, slapstick)? Seriously? Madness.

Please tell me you don't let him play it when his friends come round. I would be FUMING if another parent let DS play it.

Timeforabiscuit · 06/08/2014 10:51

I've found the BBFC insight really helpful

www.bbfc.co.uk/what-classification/what-bbfc-insight

It doesn't have it for the older Harry Potters but gave the following for deathly hallows

HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS - PART 2 is the final film in the series about the young wizard and his friends, Ron and Hermione. The three friends return to Hogwarts where they prepare for a final showdown against Voldemort. The film was classified '12' for moderate threat, injury detail and language.

Like HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS - PART 1, the film is quite dark and there is a sense of threat throughout. A number of familiar characters are shown in danger, and some of them are injured or even killed in the various battles that take place. However, the sense of threat is moderate rather than strong and 'disturbing sequences are not frequent or sustained,' in keeping with the requirements of the BBFC's Guidelines at '12A'/'12'. There are some sad moments, particularly when familiar characters are killed, but these scenes are handled sensitively. It is also likely that many viewers will already be familiar with the story from the books, reducing the impact of these events.

The violence is generally quite undetailed. There are large-scale battle scenes in which blood is visible on the clothes of the injured and dead afterwards, but without clear injury detail. A stronger sequence occurs when Voldemort orders the murder of a key character, leading to them being repeatedly bitten by a snake. We hear the attack rather than seeing it, but there is quite a lot of blood on the victim's neck and on the wall behind him afterwards. The Guidelines at '12A'/'12' permit 'occasional gory moments' and there is no close-up injury detail or clear sight of injuries being inflicted. Another gory moment occurs when Harry enters a dreamlike world and sees a bloody foetus-like creature, which is clearly not human. It is only shown briefly and Dumbledore speaks to Harry about it, reassuring him and reducing any potentially distressing effect on younger viewers.

The film also includes a single and aggressively directed use of the word 'bitch', during a fight scene. The Guidelines at '12A'/'12' state 'Moderate language is allowed'. There are also several uses of milder language, such as 'bloody' and 'bloody hell'.

Parents can find additional information about the content of this film if they visit www.pbbfc.co.uk.

I think - reading this you, as a parent, can make the call.

We went through all the Harry Potter films quite slowly, DD6 and DD4 are not allowed to watch the 12 rated ones without us watching it with them. Also eldest daughter wanted to know more detail on the plot which the film glides over - so i've told her she has to read the book if she wants the whole story.

They also play being witches and we're going to Harry Potter world Grin

SugarPlumpFairy3 · 06/08/2014 10:59

My dd who's 7 hasn't watched them yet even though I know she'd love them. Mostly, it's got nothing to do with the age rating but us wanting to make sure that she is mature enough to understand the plots (which are complicated in places) and therefore get maximum enjoyment from them. I would also prefer her to read the books first and even though she's a good reader, I haven't introduced them for the reasons above.

Imo, there are plenty of other more suitable books and films for younger children. What's the rush?

Timeforabiscuit · 06/08/2014 11:08

sugarplumpfairy it's a good point about what's the rush - the answer for me is quality of production - I would much rather dd's spent their time watching the early Harry Potters than Santa Buddies shudder

But that's my aesthetic talking rather than what my kids get out of it.

Would you rush onto the velveteen rabbit when they're getting on with the Biff and chip books?

IHeartKingThistle · 06/08/2014 11:15

Really, Santa Buddies is not the epitome of cinematography for 4 year olds. There are some wonderful films out there for children and you know it.

There's no evil in the Velveteen Rabbit either. It's sad but it's relatable.

Altinkum · 06/08/2014 11:47

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CrayolaCocaColaRocknRolla · 06/08/2014 12:26

I don't see the problem. let them watch!

ICanSeeTheSun · 06/08/2014 12:45

I don't see the problem, you know you know your own DC.

Even though I enjoyed the books ds would have no enjoyment but he loves HP.

IHeartKingThistle · 06/08/2014 13:12

Altinkum we definitely do parent differently I guess! I would have thought a game like that would be even less suitable for a child with first hand experience of war, and I'd be concerned it would mess with his head a bit, but he's not my child and it sounds like you've thought about it. Glad to hear you don't let visiting children play it.

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thegreylady · 06/08/2014 13:52

My two dgs aged 5 and 7 are having book one read as a family book before being allowed to watch the film. I don't think slightly older dc will be adversly affected by the first two [dc 7-10] but wouldn't be too keen on them seeing the later ones yet. The Dementors are enough to give anyone nightmares.

lecce · 06/08/2014 14:30

ds1 class, I'd say about 70% of his class are on our Xbox live profile, and only 1 child out of that does not have call of duty, some even have GTA

Off topic, but this depresses me. Why do some parents seem in such a hurry for young children to have toys and games aimed at far older youngsters? As a parent, you are then worrying that your children are left out if you make different choices.

ocelot41 · 06/08/2014 14:37

Wow. My 4 yr old DS still gets scared at The Octonauts. And even the Numberjacks ( it is the man in white apparently). Sorry, but I think 4 is far too young for HP.

DontstepontheMomeRaths · 06/08/2014 14:41

My kids are similar age and I've only let them watch 1 and 2. In fact my son only watched 1. The second scared him.

I'm of the view that the others are just too scary. It would give mine bad dreams.

I haven't read the full thread so I'm not sure what else has been said yet.

AnAirOfHope82 · 06/08/2014 15:02

I have 5yo ds and 2yo dd. I let ds watch the first three with us and a scary pillow (as I didnt want him to see some parts) he has been fine with it and we have talked about the story. Like wise he has watched the mavel avangers movies. We have a family xbox and he has the lego mavel and harry potter 1-4 games but has not seen the other hp films.

My 2yo is watching him play the game and can say harry potter, dobbie, hagrid and ron! I feel embaressed about this but she does not know the story and she plays with dolls, jigsaws and puzzles. He os only allowed to play lego hobbit with us and when his sister is asleep or out.

I dont let them watch the news and they dont know about war but they know about death. I want to protect their innocent but its so hard in todays world Sad

My dd likes scobby doo and spongebob but I dont think she understands the contence and if she is scared we turn it off or she turns the tv off herself.

jellybeans · 06/08/2014 15:11

YANBU Mine have all watched it, some at a younger age than yours. One of them didn't like Voldermort but otherwise it was fine.

jellybeans · 06/08/2014 15:20

I let my DSs play COD (secondary age but not 16), it's just a shoot em up. Almost all the kids play it at high school. You have to see it and decide what you are happy with. However, if DC friends come round I check with parents which games they are allowed before letting them, I ask the parents directly as the kids have been known to say they are allowed and I text the mum and he wasn't. I was a bit annoyed once when my boys were about 10 and a parent let them play all sorts of gory games. GTA5 I don't let them play unless they are with me supervising in freeplay mode (just basically driving and cycling) as I don't like the strip clubs and graphic scenes and the language is very bad.

unrealhousewife · 06/08/2014 23:18

The question you really have to ask yourselves is why? Why give your child something that may harm them when there are thousand of things that will nurture them? Every day film 4 shows two childrens movies in the

unrealhousewife · 06/08/2014 23:18

The question you really have to ask yourselves is why? Why give your child something that may harm them when there are thousand of things that will nurture them? Every day film 4 shows two childrens movies in the la

unrealhousewife · 06/08/2014 23:22

... late afternoon, there are hundreds of pixar films with completely age appropriate entertainment. So why choose a film for over 12s for a six year old?

Yamyoid · 06/08/2014 23:37

I agree with unreal and, as pp said, the dementors would terrify my 7 year old.
Each to their own but I don't want my ds to watch any of them other than the first for a good few years.
And it's a very good point about reading the books first.

DogCalledRudis · 06/08/2014 23:38

I have a collection of fairytale books from my childhood which are so dark and grim.... HP is very very tame.

As for films -- they were meant to be growing together with audience. So i think 4+6yo's probably wouldn't "get" certain parts as they're aimed at teenagers.

AnAirOfHope82 · 06/08/2014 23:40

I like the magic, wizards and its great for discussions on boarding schools, trains, magic, story telling and friendship as well as the difference between bravery and stupidity.

Indianna Jones the first film is a PG but I refuse to show it to my children as there is a part where you see a man dead on spikes. To me that is not a PG and it teaches a child nothing. So rateing help but so does common sence and knowing your child.

Finding nemo the shark chasing to eat nemos dad is scary and nemos mum deads at the start.
Up has miscarrage and death and people trying to knock down an old mans home.
Beauty and the Beast has wolves trying to eat Bell
Forzen has magic, fighting and a man trying to get power by killing a women.

These films are not that much better just they are cartoons not actors!

erin99 · 07/08/2014 00:18

We are holding back the films until they've read the books. I want them to form the characters in their own minds first, not build Harry on Daniel Radcliffe.

bunchoffives · 07/08/2014 00:19

I am horrified that children as young as 2 or 4 are watching films rated 12.

You will not be aware of the psychological problems that might create until the damage is done. And it will be no one's fault except yours as irresponsible parents.

The rating system is there for a reason - to prevent that psychological damage.

If there is any risk why not postpone until they are older? The films will all still be there and your DC will understand and enjoy them more. Without damaging their innocence or psychological development.

YABVVU

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