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to think voting for milliband must happen to save the country

180 replies

suziepra · 01/08/2014 20:44

He will re nationalise the railway , end the bed room tax, increase state pensions, stop the cut and enable employment to grow.

www.lbc.co.uk/ed-miliband-live-on-lbc-94619

Must not for ed to sort out this mess and stop the nasty torys from making the rich richer and poor poorer

OP posts:
OldFarticus · 02/08/2014 12:03

YABVVU. Frightening how little understanding some people have of economics. "Enable employment to grow" how? By lowering taxes and cutting red tape? That's exactly the opposite of what Labour will do in power!

I wonder if the OP went to the Gordon Brown school of logic in which students were taught that not giving people free money = taking money out of the economy. Hmm I wonder if Gromit also believes in a magic money tree because El Gordo clearly did?!

WatchingSeaMonkeys · 02/08/2014 12:05

increase state pensions, stop the cut and enable employment to grow.

Has he said how? Where's the money going to come from to increase pensions? That's right - more bloody taxes for anyone that dares to actually earn over £35k

How's he going to increase employment? What jobs is he going to create? How? Where? Maybe the "Job Fairy" will wave her wand & all will be well....

It's all pre-election bollocks. If they were legally accountable for their manifestos etc. I might listen, but he's just making crap up to sucker simpletons with short memories into voting for him....

fifi669 · 02/08/2014 12:07

YABU. Very.

RVPisnomore · 02/08/2014 12:10

YABU, I pay a lot in taxes and whilst I am more than happy to support people in need with my taxes I am not a bottomless pit which he can just take take take from and expect me to suck it up.

I wouldn't trust him to run a bath let alone the country.

Mumzy · 02/08/2014 12:12

Big things the next government needs to tackle: immigration control, creating an economy which provides jobs paying living wages, clamping down on tax evasion, welfare reform, an education system which allows our Dcs to compete with other developed nations, a conversation about what the NHS can realistically provide, taxation reform

MarshaBrady · 02/08/2014 12:15

The recent economic crisis means they have to do more than sell the usual left spend more message. They need to reassure people that the economy will continue to grow and how.

I'm not keen on a further divide between too and bottom but the crisis is too recent to think that growth isn't key.

I can't believe they didn't have the foresight to put David up, that just lacks insight to what people generally want, which puts me off even more.

caroldecker · 02/08/2014 12:29

The Labour party has always left office with higher unemployment than when they started.
The unions destroyed British manufacturing, not the Conservative party
Liam Byrne, current Shadow minister, left a note when the Labour party left office saying "Dear Chief Secretary, I'm afraid that there is no money. Kind regards and good luck. - Seems they are proud of it.

KnittedJimmyChoos · 02/08/2014 12:30

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6908390.stm

Councils loosing count. Local Polish community leaders say as many as 10,000 Poles have arrived in Slough in three years

The government's estimates show Slough's population is decreasing, while the council in Slough reckons it is growing so fast that about one in ten people here are simply missing from the books, not accounted for. And that has a direct consequence for everyone living here.

The government - the LABOUR governments estimate is that the population is decreasing!!

KnittedJimmyChoos · 02/08/2014 12:32
  • "Dear Chief Secretary, I'm afraid that there is no money. Kind regards and good luck. - Seems they are proud of it

Proud of it indeed, a real joke when they failed on lifting children out of poverty and infact made it worse for children in poverty.

Disgusting. The party of the people Confused

Picklepest · 02/08/2014 12:38

No way will I vote for labour while they have no policies and a shit leader.

MarshaBrady · 02/08/2014 12:41

It annoys me as they could have had a far easier sell. Why be so crap at image and messaging.

ChangeIsNear · 02/08/2014 12:46

YADNBU. Anything to get the Tories out of government. Nearly every policy of theirs has been for the benefit of their own purses. They have ruined our country.

SaucyJack · 02/08/2014 12:48

YABU. I don't think ending the spare room subsidy is going to save the country for starters.

FunLovinBunster · 02/08/2014 12:48

I won't be voting Labour. Why would I want to vote for a party who succeeds in bankrupting this country every time they are in government?
And why would anyone want to support Ed Miliband since he stabbed his brother in the back? All that proved was that he couldn't be trusted. He screwed his family over, it'll be the UK population next.
Even Labour politicians don't like him, or their policies.

FunLovinBunster · 02/08/2014 12:50

"I wouldn't trust him to run a bath..."
RVPIsNoMore is spot on.

Viviennemary · 02/08/2014 13:10

Grin at 'I wouldn't trust him to run a bath'. Not heard that one before. I'm almost feeling sorry for him now!

LittlePeaPod · 02/08/2014 13:21

Where has the Op disappeared to? Is this one of those threads where Op says something without thinking and then dives for cover when they realise they actually have nothing to say?

Cherriesandapples · 02/08/2014 13:41

Just keep picturing Ed Milliand badly running a bath!

KnittedJimmyChoos · 02/08/2014 14:30

Where has the Op disappeared to?

Indeed.

WatchingSeaMonkeys · 02/08/2014 15:15

Anything to get the Tories out of government. Nearly every policy of theirs has been for the benefit of their own purses. They have ruined our country.

Interesting, I thought they'd fixed it -

Britain’s economic outlook received another boost today when the International Monetary Fund raised its growth forecast for the UK to 2.4 per cent this year.
The upgrade - from a previous estimate that gross domestic product would rise by 1.9 per cent - means that the IMF puts the UK ahead of most of its first-world rivals in the race to recover from recession back to full output.

LINKY

Do you honestly think that would be the case if Labour had stayed in control? This has happened despite Labour....

dawndonnaagain · 02/08/2014 18:00

Disgusting. The party of the people

No more disgusting than the insidious little tale of shirker and worker. Oh, I know, let's blame the poor and the disabled for our economic predicament. Hmm

hiddenhome · 02/08/2014 18:04

I always used to vote Labour........then Tony Blair and Gordon Brown happened Sad

Labour always screw up the economy Hmm

BMW6 · 02/08/2014 20:01

No way will I vote Labour next year - the Economy is not recovered enough yet to support their reckless spending!

GrainDeMalice · 02/08/2014 22:07

They are all as bad as each other. Tony Benn's last diaries make interesting reading. He thought Blair was a fuckwit and the Israelis were bombing Gaza then too. I wish he was here in a younger incarnation (Tony Benn that is) to offer a true alternative. He foresaw that the rise of UKIP and the BNP as all the parties have demonised the working classes.

ChangeIsNear · 03/08/2014 00:27

Ed milliband has spoken up about Gaza, he is definitely getting our votes!

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