to think voting for milliband must happen to save the country

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He will re nationalise the railway , end the bed room tax, increase state pensions, stop the cut and enable employment to grow.

www.lbc.co.uk/ed-miliband-live-on-lbc-94619

Must not for ed to sort out this mess and stop the nasty torys from making the rich richer and poor poorer

Better you do realise these things you speak of were agreed under labour and contacts were sighned and we would of lost more money if they didn't go ahead

The thing with Labour is they can't spend our hard earned money fast enough. Talking about killing millions of people Tony did a good job in Iraq. Glad he is now raking in millions on the back of being the compassionate labour PM

The biggest joke is on any working-class person who would consider voting Tory.

The last two times we had a Labour government they inherited a healthy economy and ran it into the ground. Then it's up to those horrid nasty Tories to take the rap for bringing the country back within its means so that Labour can get voted back in and start being irresponsible compassionate with taxpayers' money again.

A sussinct overview.

Dont be fooled that Labour will reverse anything the Coalition have put in place ... they won't - they never do.

I'd take take the vote away from people who are too stupid to think we collectively vote for a person or a party - we dont

I clearly re member Olympics being planned under red ken it would all cost us a walnut wip remember

That was not labour and actually under the Tories the Olympics this was one of the first games not to loose money

Sorry, we do or we don't vote for a party or a figurehead? Do you long to to take my vote away because I am confused by yr post?

I've no idea who to vote for now that Clegg has laid down with dogs.

Tempted to choose Labour as a tactical vote to keep the Tories out.

It's not that much deeper for some people - I've heard a lot of people say they wouldn't vote Labour because of Milliband. It's discounting an entire party and its policies because of crap like that bacon sandwich thing, or not liking his voice or him looking like Wallace. I do actually think that's as far as some people would look. Like my point below about UKIP - 'oh Farage seems like a proper bloke cos he's been pictured with a pint of lager, I'll vote for him.' Do you really not believe that some people are that shallow?

i would like out politicians to have lived in the real world rather than come from some antiquated small population of planet earth

agree, I was disgusted to hear Blairs kids school and Cleggs is

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9907427/Nick-Clegg-sends-son-to-same-Catholic-school-used-by-Tony-Blair.html

London Oratory cherrypicks privileged white pupils, says watchdog
West London school uses complex faith-based entry system breaking 105 aspects of school admissions code, says report

The Roman Catholic state school attended by Nick Clegg's son, which also educated two of Tony Blair's children, uses a complex, faith-based entry system to cherrypick, in effect, a pupil population that is disproportionately privileged and white, according to a damning report by the schools admissions watchdog.

In a ruling described by campaigners as the most robust ever released by the Office of the Schools Adjudicator (OSA), the London Oratory school was found to have broken 105 aspects of the school admissions code over two years: 63 instances involving students entering in September 2013 and 42 connected to this year's cohort.

Among the breaches, the report found, was that the school had a notably lower proportion of pupils from non-white or deprived backgrounds compared not only with its local community, in Fulham, west London, but with many other Catholic state secondary schools in the capital.

The school wrongly set complex religious requirements, such as parents needing to provide original baptism certificates for the child and both parents, and needing to give details that could reveal, for example, whether they were married.

www.theguardian.com/education/2014/jul/15/london-oratory-accused-cherry-picking-privileged-white-pupils

Utterly disgusting.

It's not Miliband that stops me voting Labour.

It's Miliband plus Balls plus the memories of gold-giveaway Brown and war-criminal Blair.

Break-even on 11 billion quid is not my idea of good business. I don't think the last Labour govt should have bid the Olympics, and I think if the Tories wanted to make a tough choice, they should have cancelled it. Ken did a good job for London in securing investment via the Olympics, that was his job at the time and he always said that was all he was interested in.

poster KnittedJimmyChoos

I do giggle when people call Tory's toffs as if ed millibar comes from some council estate in Brixton hahahahahaha

Labour now is just as posh as the Tory's and don't get me started on Tristan Hunt he actually has blue blood

I don't know who is worse, Cameron, Clegg or Milliband. They are all fantastic liars who don't really give a damn about anything beyond winning the popularity contests elections.

I am seriously worried about the idiots who think UKIP could be a serious contender, Farage is scary.

A party is defined by its leader, you need someone vaguely charismatic and that's why Labour won't get anywhere in 2015.

• picnicbasketcase Fri 01-Aug-14 22:09:30

Your post reminds me of the repugnant attitude towards people that some Labour and lefties and Lib Dems have towards the population in general that they are not well educated enough or in touch with politics enough to know whats going on around them, beyond yes beyond the realms the the Daily Mail....and are too thick to vote. ( see above article re Labour/lib dem leaders choosing school that broke 105 aspects of school admissions....

Its the crux of Labours problems, the party of the working man, the poor man, the un educated man! They do not engage with these people any more just hold them beneath contempt....

The thing is about the sandwich thing is it makes people think well if you can't even manage a buttie then how can you get to grips with a wole nation and I really can't imagin him standing should to shoulder with Obama he just reminds me of the tea boy or the slighty lick ass school prefect

I'm not saying for a second that anyone is too uneducated to vote, what an incredibly rude thing to say. I'm repeating things I've heard people say. And I do think people can put put off a whole party by who the leader is.

if you can't even manage a buttie then how can you get to grips with a wole nation .

Picnic

• It's discounting an entire party and its policies because of crap like that bacon sandwich thing, or not liking his voice or him looking like Wallace. I do actually think that's as far as some people would look. Like my point below about UKIP - 'oh Farage seems like a proper bloke cos he's been pictured with a pint of lager, I'll vote for him.' Do you really not believe that some people are that shallow?

oh I see

We know they choose the wrong brother
The unions know it and on Election Day labour will know it

He is seen a a bumbling baffon who can't eat a buttie or drink a beer with out it seeming contrived he looks like he's never had pint in his life

The trorys are making the deepest cuts we have seen since the war and he still can't land a punch on a Wednesday afternoon and you can see ed balls and he hate each other

And the fact he knows as much about the comman man as my cat coming from a wealthy middle class white background means

He's not fit to run my dryer let alone the uk

Where did I say anything about being uneducated in that? I think some people do vote based on whether they like or dislike the leader of a party, which includes whether they like bacon sandwiches or smoking and drinking. Clearly these things have a bearing on opinions of party leaders or they wouldn't be dredged up time and time again.

YABU - he is a union puppet and a man that can do what he did to his own brother is not to be trusted. The worse thing Labour (as a party) did was to stab David Milliband in the back, he would have been a better leader and challenged the Conservatives better than Ed ever will.

FFS Yabu, labour closed more hospital beds than the Tories. They are just as bad and at least the Tories are up front with their policies!

But it's because he's trying to pretend he's down with the people when clearly not he most likey drinks a nice veno with a good year and eats facatha not bacon butties

YABVVVVVVU.

He's not capable of running the country. He's barely capable of running his own party.

I think even the op knows he's a twat she's clinging on to the hope they will reverse the cuts which they won't

When during PMQs he gets ask well which cut will you reeves he refuses to say because the answer is none