To be shocked how many of you believe in karma?

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Do you really or do you just say things like "what goes around comes around" and talk of karma as a turn of phrase?

I'd like to think people are kind naturally and not because they're frightened of karma?

If you do really believe, then why? Is it not like believing in magic or something? For what it's worth I do think it's a nice thought and I wish it existed!

I do not believe in any kind of supernatural nonsense but I might occasionally use the word karma as a shorthand way of explaining why I let someone in front of me in a queue for example. Like others have said if you're nice it might encourage others to do the same...

I am still waiting for karma to get my sociopathic father.

So far it hasn't. He still lands on his feet constantly.

I have seen far too many lovely genuine people get shit on, so their kindness doesn't always breeds kindness either.

I want to know why my evil father gets away with so much and my beautiful kind mother has had nothing but hardship.

If you are kind you are more likely to receive kindness back but I have seen it work the opposite way as well.

Strictly turn of phrase here. I do think good things happen to nice people, but for the very down to earth reason that they are nice to others, and people like them and want to return favours.

I don't believe in Karma but I do believe in the "pay it forward" ripple effect.

If you do good things/what's right then hopefully others will do likewise and it will all grow exponentially.

I don't know.

My daughter died.

Does that mean I deserved it? Or that those who do me wrong will have something worse happen? Or do I have a lotto win due me to help 'make up' for it.

On reflection, I think no.

Agree with the pay it forward idea.

But bad things can happen to good people. It's not karma. It's just a fact of how shitty life can be sometimes.

I believe in some form of karma and it doesn't make me nice.

The best form of karma I can think of is DD1. I was a shit of a teenager and she is turning out to be one just as bad.

I believe that something shit will happen to everyone including me so I don't see why I have to go about playing nice in an attempt to prevent bad karma.

As an impressionable teen I liked the idea of karma. Then my wonderful, kind godmother who was a paediatric nurse and nursed terminally ill children with enormous love and empathy died, childless and without a partner, of Brest cancer aged 40.

That's when I realised karma was a load of bullshit.

Breast cancer

Well, like I said, I don't believe it Karma but I do believe in trying to do the right thing whenever possible.

It's about integrity, honesty and being moral.

Not about being "sanctimonious" or "playing" nice.

That was to Lally in case that wasn't clear.

not a belief (I don't believe in anything, I only work by evidence) but in my experience arseholes do eventually get what they deserve.

Agree with thornrose. It is a rather disturbing belief system but people use it as an alternative to saying what goes around, comes around (which is also patently untrue in most cases).

I don't cope well with people saying things happen for a reason, either!

Well I do do honesty Salmotrutta, that is sometimes blunt, to the point and quite brutal. I say what I think, I say how I feel and I can kick of royally when pissed off. I'm hot headed, foul mouthed and bad tempered at times and I don't always do the 'right thing'. I do have some morals, though most of them are comparable to an alleycat and that's ok too because its just me. I'm fine with it and I accept it, I'm human and not perfect and I don't try to be.

Karma, in Buddhism at least, is not some kind of cosmic pay back system. It is not a case of bad stuff happens because you deserve it - sometimes stuff just happens because we are organic beings in a natural world. What it does say is that your actions have consequences - karma means action, and is nothing to do with some kind of cosmic justice.

Some Buddhists (not all) believe that the balance of your actions may affect your next incarnation - that you carry the consequences of your actions with you. Some Hindus believe that your karmic balance will determine the nature of your next incarnation. Some do not believe in reincarnation or karma at all, or at most see it simply as a call to be responsible in your thoughts and actions. I'm with the latter - no cosmic accountant required.

i suppose sooner or later bad things will automatically happen to someone who has wronged you

it also means when people say my husband should "do something" about his ex and her petty behaviour i can point out karma will catch up with her i dont believe it for a moment but it makes them stfu! because however much i would love to "do something" about the girl even shouting back at her in the street (when she mouths off) i wont lower myself neither does he and it drives her crackers 6 years of dignity in public and counting!

I say it, I don't actually believe it, it's just something to say to make someone feel better when someone does something bad to them

I believe that you get back what you give out and I really have learnt this through life experience. If you are a negative person who tends to see the worse in a situation, very often the worse tends to happen. So for me I try to be a kind person and whilst I am no mug, I don't go looking for conflict.

I have had some very malicious things done to me in the past and I have not retaliated. I do think that those people will get there's without any involvement from myself. Through some supernatural means? Nope. Because I think they will one day cross some nasty bastard who will wipe the floor with them and for that I have a wry smile.

I do not believe in Karma at all, it does not exist. I have seen too many nasty bastards who have hurt people go on to live charmed lives.

What about the rapist who won the lottery, where is the karma or justice in that. OK, he was in prison but the lottery win has secured him a rosy comfortable future. Where is the "karma" for his victims?

Karma isn't about people getting bitten on the bum anyway, it has been twisted by the west to mean something completely different from the original meaning.

To me it generally means that actions have consequences.

Extreme eg:
Marie Antoinette :complete bitch but charmed life.
French Revolution: head comes off as so many pissed off. That kind of thing.

Of course it exists as the world would be a horrible place every wise. You treat everyine as you want yo be treated...mnetters it does exist doesn't it...please you be telling me father xmas doesn't exist soon..we all know he does...(walks Away very worried looking for ginger beer)

I believe that for many good (and bad) people life's a bitch and then you die.

Karma doesn't exist.

A friend of mine was hysterical to find her wheelchair was branded "karma".