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Help - a very upsetting situation

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Cygnet44 · 14/07/2014 14:49

Hi I don't come on here often but I find my self in a situation that is very upsetting and one that I cannot find a solution to. I've recently decided to end my marriage after 12 years, I won't go into the detail but it's not been a happy one for a number of years and enough is enough for the sake of both of us and my 17 year old son that lives with us.
The problem is that last October I thought it would a great idea to have a big family holiday to Florida for my son's 18th and also my stepson. It's somewhere we've always wanted to take the boys and this year will probably be the last year that they will want to come away with us. So booked on this holiday is myself, my husband, my son (from first marriage), My step son (husbands from a previous relationship, the mother in law, the sister in law and her partner. This is all booked and paid for and we are due to go at the end of August for 2 weeks, staying in a rented villa.
However, MIL has made it clear that she does not want to stay in the same villa as me, she has made her position very clear and stated that she doesn't want an atmosphere on holiday, thinking that myself and husband are going to fight and argue the whole time. In fact we have so far remained as civil as possible, as we are still living under the same roof. I went round to see the MIL a few weeks ago to try and sort this out but she isn't the easiest person to appeal to and she made it quite clear what she thought about me. The rest of the family (apart from the boys) have jumped on the bandwagon and have more or less tried to bully me into not going; suggesting I should book and pay for another hotel room for myself or not go at all (I have paid for all 4 of us to go, my husband has not paid a penny). I've had a row with the MIL, husband and an email from SIL. I know they are all discussing it behind my back. I did hear from SIL's partner that MIL is looking to book another villa so that I end up in the original one on my own.
In the middle of all this are our two boys, of which no one else, apart from me, are considering. They want to stay in the same place and hang out together like teenage boys should, especially in the evenings where there is a games room in the villa etc. How can one stay with his dad in one place and my son stay with me somewhere else? How can they expect me to stay somewhere on my own, not knowing when I can see my son? How is that an easy situation for my son, it will be uncomfortable for him to have to ask to see me, know when he is seeing me next, if I'm going to be welcome etc. Everyone is discussing this holiday and now everyone is getting to the stage where they don't know what to do for the best. I have stated that no one is thinking of the boys in all of this, that the holiday was about them and for 2 weeks, why can't people put their differences aside and behave like grown adults, for the sake of the boys and just have a nice holiday that we've paid a lot of money for. It's getting so ridiculous now and my son is at the point where he doesn't want to go, the excitement has been ruined. He sees that I am the only one being adult about this whilst everyone else is up in arms at the mere suggestion. My husband is burying his head in the sand and lying to his family as he is supposed to have told me they are looking to rent another villa and he hasn't told me this at all, I've heard it from SILs partner because he was dismayed at it all and didn't want to lie to me.

The situation has really got out of hand and is not helped by the obstinence of the MIL and my husband. They just refuse to listen to reason.
Please I really don't want to hear, why didn't I wait until after the holiday to end my marriage, because hindsight is a wonderful thing but in reality the marriage has been dead for years and actually I feel the situation would have been worse for various reasons. I've tried everything in my power to make it work but it just remains a very unhappy situation and one I just cannot take anymore.
I feel sick about it all, not least for the two boys in the middle of this. I just want it over and done with and for the boys to have a lovely time, my son to have a memorable 18th birthday whilst out there.

What would you do in this situation? I would really appreciate some thoughts.
Thanks :)

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 15/07/2014 10:00

That's a really positive step you've taken. Good luck. It will be interesting to see how much backtracking and downplaying goes on now.

I would place money on him saying you are overreacting at some point. It would be tempting to tell him to fuck off but Hmm might be less inflamatory.

Viviennemary · 15/07/2014 10:02

It does seem annoying when you've paid for everything. But I can understand why your mil will feel awkward if the family is soon to split up. Since you paid then you have first choice in the accommodation and who stays where. If people aren't happy then they can make their own arrangements and pay for them. You sit tight in the villa and let everyone else worry about what they will do.

Morloth · 15/07/2014 10:02

Then enjoy the game.

Cygnet44 · 15/07/2014 10:02

Nanny0gg he sat there and said no you won't, you can't do that. I said just watch me, the wheels are in motion. I've sent him a text this morning just confirming this too just so he is absolutely clear.

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titchy · 15/07/2014 10:08

I'd take your son, your dss and your dss' mum - that's piss 'em right off Grin

Morloth · 15/07/2014 10:12

Now that is a good idea titchy!

Cygnet44 · 15/07/2014 10:12

titchy I have thought about that and it will be something I will put to dss' mum

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goats · 15/07/2014 10:16

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londonrach · 15/07/2014 10:18

Cygnet you doing the right thing. It's about the two boys. I hope you have a lovely holiday and can I be a fly on the wall when your mil finds out. Fingers crossed today is better x

Morloth · 15/07/2014 10:20

If you can afford to write off the 4k.

Continue as if you intend to go whilst making alternative arrangements with dss' mum.

Then just don't show, no explanation no involvement with villa etc.

forago · 15/07/2014 10:28

Best outcome IMO is you go with your ds, stepson, maybe another mate and maybe stepsons mum. Have a break from these hideous people! If they don't go I am sure your son will come round to going. Get stepsons mum on board!

Re the driving I u dersta d as I felt the same way - bit it will be fine. See this as you first challenge for a new, independent, stronger you. Hire a car to pick up at the airport. Arrive early. Leave plenty of time to leave the other in a cafe and have a little drive round the parking area at Orlando airport where you pick up the cars to get used to it. There is plenty of space. It will be fine.

Amarena · 15/07/2014 10:47

Cygnet, I've just read this and wanted to say good on you for taking control and not letting yourself be bullied. You sound like a strong person who wants the best for her son.

Other posters have said that they can see how your ex's family might feel uncomfortable - well, tough really. If you can be a grown up about it, why can't they? And if they really couldn't bear to stay in the same place then they can walk on and find somewhere else to stay for the holiday. How pathetically ridiculous. Your stb ex MIL sounds a delight, bet you won't be sorry to see her go when you do separate.

I really hope you get it to all work out. How fantastic would it be if you went with your son, ss and his mum? She obviously knows all about your nightmare MIL and will probably have a few experiences of her own to tell you about!

Keep us posted and good luck!

AndHarry · 15/07/2014 10:58

I'm not sure if you'll be able to amend a booking in someone else's name.

If you can though then it sounds like the best solution.

QuintessentiallyQS · 15/07/2014 11:08

Wow, OP, you are an Amazonian warrior-ess, a Hera, an amalgamation of Tiger mum and goddess in one. Go girl.

ColdCottage · 15/07/2014 11:14

Can't you fill the spare rooms in the villa with your sons friends. Just ask them to book and pay for their own flights and park entry. I'm sure you'd get some takers.

Groovee · 15/07/2014 11:14

Driving in Orlando is very easy. I've done it no problem and it's much easier than here.

Check out car on the drive. They will collect you from the airport and take you to your accommodation and show you how to work the car. A bit more expensive but worth it.

Cygnet44 · 15/07/2014 11:14

Hi all
goats thank you for pointing out the possibility of stbex cancelling flights. I've had a think about it and just know that potentially he would do this if I dared to transfer his ticket to another person.
I've just spoken with the mum of my son's best friend and we are doing everything possible to get him to on this holiday with my son, they just need to sort out his passport as it has expired but are willing to go get it done in a day. I've not heard back from ss's mum as yet but am hoping she is agreeable to ss staying with me and two other teens, they are all around the same age.

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Cygnet44 · 15/07/2014 11:34

Groovee thank you for that, I've emailed them for a quote. I CAN do this!

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Cygnet44 · 15/07/2014 11:37

I just wanted to say thank you to you all, you have all helped to keep me strong throughout this. You don't know how much I appreciate that, I felt so alone in all of this.

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wantsleepnow · 15/07/2014 11:37

Can I just say you sound like an amazing mum and step-mum. Those boys are lucky to have you looking out for them Thanks

I hope you do manage to get away, just you and the boys (and maybe some friends). I think it would feel different enough from the original arrangements that your son could move on from it feeling 'tarnished'.

If not though, are you in a position financially where you can bin off the wasted money and go on holiday another time? It might be worth seeing it as one of the 'costs' of divorce. I got divorced some years ago and consciously decided to let many things slide rather than fight for them, for the greater positive of being free of my ex and looking forward to a new chapter in my life.

Not that you should have to give way to these horrible people, but I normally fester over any unfairness and tbh it was a revelation to 'let it go'.

Numanoid · 15/07/2014 11:41

They all (with the exception of the kids, of course) sound horrible, Cygnet You, on the other hand, sound like a lovely person and well done for putting the kids first and being the only one to behave like a grown up!

I'm glad to see you aren't letting them push you out of this holiday. You paid for it, you organised it, so go to the villa with your son and his friends and have a good time, and let them waste their time by sitting moaning and fretting about a bad atmosphere (that wouldn't have existed if they hadn't started this) if they want.

I also agree with what others have said about keeping an eye on the flights and making sure you ex doesn't cancel them. I don't know if there's a way to transfer 'ownership' of the booking, or contact them to tell them not to accept a cancellation request from him, but it's worth contacting the airline to find out.

Whereisegg · 15/07/2014 11:43

Bloody good for you cygnet!

Littlef00t · 15/07/2014 11:44

Out of interest, how much would a totally extra ticket cost? Could stbxh go stay with his family too?

Cygnet44 · 15/07/2014 12:08

Thank you everyone, no one is going to bully me and treat my kids in this despicable manner. Believe me, if there wasn't kids involved I would gladly stick two fingers at the lot of them and give it all up.
Littlef00t, the cost of another flight is around £650, I am going to book this for my friends son and his parents will pay me back. I'm staying in the original villa, that is booked in my name. I'm organising my own transport too. Feeling determined :)

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Groovee · 15/07/2014 12:09

Yipeee, can't wait to hear how it all goes x