Was DH unreasonable to ask the neighbour's kids

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to go inside at 9.40 this morning. There were 3 of them and they'd been outside on their trampoline (which buts right up to the fence) since 8.00 am singing at the top of their voices. Eventually we couldn't take it any longer as they started to sing a song from Frozen and they ramped up the volume until they were virtually screaming. DH called over the fence and asked them to go and sing inside.

MrTumble I think the intolerance of dc is a very UK thing, to be honest.

I don't see/hear of it as much anywhere else.

But I can open the door, call the offending child indoors to calm down and cool down before letting them back out.

OK, please do round up a five a side team of 12 year olds and then try to call them indoors to calm in the middle of their football match.

Oh my god, Mayhem the more you say the worse you sound.

Is like your username has been taken over by your 11 year old.

I can't believe there really are people who would behave as you say you would.

Who on earth would expect a five-a-side team of 12 year olds to be quiet during a match??

If 5 twelve year olds were having a loud screaming football game in your garden and you knew the neighbours were outside trying to enjoy a bit of sunshine or a meal with friends, would you not ask them to quieten down or go and play in the park Walter? Because I would

Thats how neighbour wars are started mayhem . When people overreact and take offence at slights that are not slights.

Funny how I get on great with my neighbours. We trust each other to be reasonable and know tha tif adults have to intervene, there is normally a good reason.

There would have to be a lot more unreasonableness to get into the situation you describe above. I'm glad i've got sensible neighbours who don't escalate tiny things.
Maybe there are times when you may think in your head, that it was a bit full on, but but my neighbours and I certainly wouldn't go round retaliating in the way you describe, because we are reasonable people.

Well my garden isn't big enough for a game of five a side tbh!

But yes, of course I would.

I would even tell them it serves them right.

But I wouldn't be happy with the neighbour sending them to play elsewhere.

If I couldn't control five 12 years them I wouldn't be looking after them.

I obv. Wouldnt be fit to.

Yes, I think we've established that you're wonderful Mayhem and that your children are widely admired for their perfect behaviour. Strange how that image just isn't coming through in your posts, though. Maybe you just have to be there.......

Well to be fair, only dd1 is widely admired.

Dd2 hasn't started nursery yet and dd3 is still a baby.

But so far so good .

I'll take praise where praise is due

The good news is that the 'noisy children' at 'way too early o'clock' was a rare occurrence and not a regular one. I'm pleased for OP and her DP (who can now save money by not buying his own trampoline, lycra and the lyrics to Dancing Queen). I'm pleased that this has not led to to some NDN War and they all still get on well.

I'm also very pleased that Mayhem has pissed off for the time being - presumably dispensing her largesse and experience with dc elsewhere - possibly a very tired parent-volunteer reading to children in her dc's school. Hopefully she can remember not to say c*nt when she's there. Let's all feel sorry for Mayhem and give her a big unMN 'huggypoo' - then watch as her head rotates 360 in anger at the very idea indeed.

She'd probably accuse you of assault Iam for daring to touch her

Ooh still a novice at parenting multiple older children, than mayhem

Read this in a few years and you'll probably laugh at yourself. You'll have learnt that there is no such thing as a "perfect parent"

I really am sad that it's becoming a world where nobody can speak to other peoples children, about any subject, for fear of it being taken the wrong way. Soon we'll be in trouble for looking at them the wrong way.

Well not quite as DSD is 18 and I've been helping to raise her since she was 4.

But carry on assuming ...

Yes as an adult, I can control where I swear.

Are you 12 and unable to do so?

Just one last set of questions mayhem

How do you get on with your neighbours? Have you really ever retaliated as you described above or are you just enjoying the arguing as I have?

Are you really as unreasonable in real life?

Walter I am English, and its not the England I remember from my 80s childhood, but it is very much a cliche of suburban little England. It sounds so dreary and pursed lipped - a life where chdren are shshed and adults twitch the nets and worry about what the neighbors might say. I really hope the people who think community and neighborlyness means not allowing normal childhood play at normal daytime hours, and the absolute right of adults not to be aware children live next door, is vastly over-represented on MN as opposed to the whole of the UK!

There is a real community where I live - we look out for old/ ill neighbors, water each others plants, feed each others peys when people go on holiday, put each others bins out, shovel each other's paths free of snow, pick up each other's children if they fall of their bikes, warn them not to say rude eords in front of toddlers - nobody tells them not to use their own gardens or treats children as 2nd class citizens, people of every age like to see and hear kids out playing - and if they don't they know they are BU because its what happy, healthy, active kids do, and what they did themselves when they were young.

Oh dear Mayhem. You do sound really horrible. I wish you well in your real life.

Mayhem you're not doing the valid point that the OP's general attitude is U any favours... The Middle Way leads to sanity here :o

Why am I on trial?

You only want to know the details so you can pick my life apart and use it as a form of personal attacks.

Presumably because you cannot pick apart my arguments re. this situation.

Thanks Lovely

There is a real community where I live - we look out for old/ ill neighbors, water each others plants, feed each others peys when people go on holiday, put each others bins out, shovel each other's paths free of snow, pick up each other's children if they fall of their bikes, warn them not to say rude eords in front of toddlers - nobody tells them not to use their own gardens or treats children as 2nd class citizens, people of every age like to see and hear kids out playing - and if they don't they know they are BU because its what happy, healthy, active kids do, and what they did themselves when they were young.

I like to think that describes my neighbourhood too - except they may be asked to go inside if they want to sing shout that loudly for over an hour and a half

Mayhem you are the one who resorted to personal attacks and namecalling when you ran out of arguments. Calling people 'cunts' 'dense' and generally adopting a bullish defensive attitude is not going to lend credibility to your arguments.

And I think your arguments have been very effectively picked apart on this thread.

Not by you they haven't vintage.

Still think teachers are lies?