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AIBU?

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to sing harmonies in toddler music sessions?

291 replies

PrincessPotsie · 05/07/2014 02:01

Am I turning into one of those annoying mums? I always remember a v annoying dad doing sit ups during 'Row Row Row Your Boat' at a playgroup I once went to. He definitely was BU...

OP posts:
Allsosad · 05/07/2014 08:28

What is it to sing harmonies, sorry I don't get it and I have tried to google it but still not helping ! Please don't think I'm an ignorant twat !

BeeBlanket · 05/07/2014 08:30

It means singing a different tune from the main tune, but that goes with the main tune (and so is supposed to sound nice, not just wrong IYSWIM :))

In lots of choral music, and also in some pop music you will get two or more singers singing different notes at the same time - that's all it is.

Nerf · 05/07/2014 08:31

Same here, I know sometimes I'm singing something in church or whatever and a load of people at the back go off in a different way but no idea why or how.

Rowingdowntheriver · 05/07/2014 08:32

allsosad, singing harmonies is singing something other than the actual tune but which sounds nice if sung at the same time. Not sure I'm being very clear but I hope that helps.

And YABU OP!

Galvanized · 05/07/2014 08:32

I am so unmusical that I can't even imagine how you sing a harmony in toddler groups.

Which song(s) OP?

Allsosad · 05/07/2014 08:34

Ahhhhh ok ! That will sound really ridiculous if someone was doing it at toddler group ! I' d try to have a normal face but tears will be streaming down my face I think !

LittleBearPad · 05/07/2014 08:39

Thanks for the laughs OP. You know you're being unreasonable.

Stick to the car or home if you want to show off

readrunraverelax · 05/07/2014 08:41

I have loved your OP! I have laughed so much, so thank you for making me giggle first thing in the morning.

I can do harmonies but never would at such a group. I am a primary teacher and I was horrified at the daylight robbery of a group I went to with my DS when he was 16 months, as the stuff she was asking them to do would be hard for 6 year olds. I have also been the school's music specialist so I know what I am talking about. The toddlers were walking around with the beaters in their mouth and all the mums and grannies were doing the songs and actions. I did not continue paying about 4 quid a session and anyone who does is a numpty. I am totally qualified to do such music groups with wee ones and could do them standing on my head with my eyes shut, but I would never do them as I could not stand the mums who would come along.

Sing at home while you go around the house, while you play with them, get them bathed or dressed, as the DC will get more out of it.

MardyBra · 05/07/2014 08:45

readrun There are lots of variations between music groups. Many have rules to prevent children running round with instruments.

readrunraverelax · 05/07/2014 08:56

Mardy you are right, think the one I was at was particularly bad.

Still think they are unnecessary for LO's.

FoxSticks · 05/07/2014 08:59

Unfortunately we are British and any unsolicited demonstrations of enjoyment and/or talent are to be frowned upon

^^ This is so true Grin

I want to know what prompted you to ask Princess? Were you noticing stifled giggles and funny looks?

Galvanized · 05/07/2014 09:00

readrun £4 a session sounds a bargain, around my end of London music groups are about £8 a session! We stick to library rhyme time.

AndIFeedEmGunpowder · 05/07/2014 09:01

Grin I think we should all try it this week at toddler group and report back!

AndIFeedEmGunpowder · 05/07/2014 09:03

Princess is there a mums' choir near you?

FoxSticks · 05/07/2014 09:03

I had to stop going to our class readrun because my toddler just wanted to jump and dance in the middle of the group. Very showy offy. Her inability to sit on my lap nicely like the other kids, and her insistence on running with instruments was very much frowned upon.

MardyBra · 05/07/2014 09:05

readrun As a primary teacher, I'm sure you're aware there have been lots of studies that show that music is beneficial to children's development, including speech acquisition, confidence and even their brains are wired differently.

True, you don't need to go to a group to get that benefit. But if the group is well run, then it can be great fun for kids and parents. I guess it depends on the group leader, their material and props etc.

Fatteningviolet · 05/07/2014 09:06

YABU and you know it: you are my kinda irritant!! Grin Flowers

But believe me the guy who does push ups to 'row the boat'...league of his own. You don't come close!

Fatteningviolet · 05/07/2014 09:07

Sorry, sit ups, not push ups (though that would have been even better!)

Fatteningviolet · 05/07/2014 09:11

it most certainly wasn't to let people know my music credentials or to do loud parenting

Yes but how would anybody have ever known the difference??? Grin Bee Reminds me of the Mitchell and Webb sketch where they are saying that most people who watch The Apprentice, Big Brother etc do so "ironically" but this matters not a jot as far as the ratings are concerned...they are serious numbers!!

readrunraverelax · 05/07/2014 09:12

Mardy I agree about music being beneficial. My group must have just been really bad and has put me off for life! Ha ha!

Fatteningviolet · 05/07/2014 09:12

Right and now I must go. I have a wedding to go to. I wouldn't mind, but it's my own Shock

ExcuseTypos · 05/07/2014 09:13

I can't stop laughing at Sit Up man. [Grin]

I'm just imagining the group when he started doing that and you started doing your harmoniesGrin Bloody brilliant!

MardyBra · 05/07/2014 09:15

Was it like this group readrun?

BeeBlanket · 05/07/2014 09:16

Weeeell - I wasn't doing it very loud!

Seriously, it was to amuse myself. Actually I actually don't give a toss who heard me or if they all hated me. They were all boring and only wanted to talk about baby poo consistency But it is a bit annoying that you can't take one step out of the straight and narrow without being seen as showing off and having to be slapped down. It is a very British thing.

FWIW if I heard someone else doing this I wouldn't mind at all, unless they were clearly trying to show off by drowning everyone else out. It would be one small mitigation to the boredom so that's fine by me.

FoxSticks · 05/07/2014 09:17

Sit up man sounds great, i bet he really thought he was impressing you ladies! Good luck today violet I hope you have a wonderful day Smile