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to think it's rude to begin a sentence with the word "Actually"

59 replies

weneedtotalkaboutmusic · 03/07/2014 18:34

and even more so if that sentence is any kind of advice or lecture or correction on the subject of manners.

I first read this in an Enid Blyton book (Malory Towers?) as a child. It seemed right then and it seems right now.

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weneedtotalkaboutmusic · 03/07/2014 19:49

"My friend does Actually followed by my name.

IT MAKES ME SO ANGRY.

and breathe."

Ooh that is bad.
I realised someone I thought was a friend didn't like me at all because she would start sentences thus:
"I wouldn't worry about it weneed".

I was a bit dim and it took me a while.....

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Bowlersarm · 03/07/2014 19:49

Ok so I've annoyed you twice, OP.

(Three times if you don't like sentences starting with 'ok' as well as all your other criteria)

We are moons apart on the use of the English language.

weneedtotalkaboutmusic · 03/07/2014 19:50

dammit Zoe you have spoilt my pattern.

Perhaps that was ok because the information was about you?

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weneedtotalkaboutmusic · 03/07/2014 19:52

no you only annoyed me once bowler.

and that only very very slightly. barely even registering on the annoyancometer.

I'm completely ok with ok, btw. "ok" is a sort of gathering of mutual resources.

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Thebluedog · 03/07/2014 19:53

'Basically' boils my piss...

weneedtotalkaboutmusic · 03/07/2014 19:54

huh.

what are the piss-boiling properties of basically?

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zoemaguire · 03/07/2014 20:16

Sorry Grin

hmmmwhatnow · 03/07/2014 20:32

"Listen, is that thunder?"

Actually could be useful not offensive.

Bowlersarm · 03/07/2014 20:36

I annoyed you twice!

I don't mind sentences starting with 'Actually' and I said 'go with it' which you subsequently said was annoying too.

Sorry to be picky OP, but you shouldn't have me down as being annoying only 'very very slightly'. You should have me down as being annoying in the extreme.

That's the thing. You are nice, so the way I was 'speaking' you found acceptable, despite the words I actually used.

Eveningsaregettingshorter · 03/07/2014 21:59

More irritating than 'actually' is starting a sentence with 'well, look...'. It was a Blair favourite too.

weneedtotalkaboutmusic · 04/07/2014 11:28

Bowlersarm,

Now I am not finding you annoying at all.

Now, starting a sentence "Sorry, but...." is possibly even worse than Actually.

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TillyTellTale · 04/07/2014 11:45

Is "actually" the problem, or just something one focuses on after being contradicted?

A lot of people find being contradicted annoying, and removing "actually" from my vocabulary is just re-arranging deckchairs. I'm not going to stop contradicting people until they Stop Being Wrong. Grin On the internet and in real life.

NigellasDealer · 04/07/2014 11:50

My husband starts his sentences with "Listen...
is he Polish?

SarcyMare · 04/07/2014 11:55

so the problem is actually people contradicting you OP

Summerblaze · 04/07/2014 12:00

I'm not being funny but........ Usually finished with some sarcastic comment.

Aargh. Gives me the rage.

weneedtotalkaboutmusic · 04/07/2014 12:03

@SarcyMare. I guess that's about right but it's the disguised element that bugs me. Disguised slap in the face and all that.

Whereas a passionate "NO! I disagree! I find the opposite" is fine by me.

Alain de Botton writes well about superficially polite sentences that are really about annihilating the other person. Must buy DH a birthday present then might look it up and randomly post it on here not that anyone's interested but me prob.

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ADishBestEatenCold · 04/07/2014 12:09

Sentences begun with 'To be honest' really irritate me ... on two counts.

One, they (rightly or wrongly) make me suspicious that there might well be a wee fib or embellishment in whatever the speaker is telling me.

Conversely, am I meant to assume that everything the speaker doesn't prefix with 'To be honest' is a lie?

lougle · 04/07/2014 12:15

Actually is a perfectly good word.

HecatePropylaea · 04/07/2014 12:48

Nope, he's kenyan.
Tony blair.

It just feels like a command.
I order you to pay attention, woman.

Grr

NigellasDealer · 04/07/2014 13:01

i know hec, my polish ex used to say it at the beginning of every sentence...his only excuse was that it is normal in polish...
sounded bloody annoying to me!!

ArcheryAnnie · 04/07/2014 13:03

"With the greatest respect...." followed by something that displays no respect at all.

I totally overuse "actually" within a sentence, but not in the way the OP describes, but in the "this actually happened" sense. I also overuse "totally".

BlueberriesAndWine · 04/07/2014 14:19

If DH begins a sentence with

"Can I ask you a question" it's always something he wants to complain to me about.

It's always done in a kind of sarcastic tone too and it drives me mad.

I just reply "no" now Grin

Ilovexmastime · 04/07/2014 14:31

Ok, I'm going to bite and be the dim one...

I realised someone I thought was a friend didn't like me at all because she would start sentences thus:
"I wouldn't worry about it weneed".

I was a bit dim and it took me a while.....

please explain to me why this means she doesn't like you?!?

(and before anyone comments, I know that the ?!? will also annoy some people Grin)

DoJo · 04/07/2014 14:31

Words aren't annoying - people are!
Someone who uses 'actually' to mean 'Check me out, I'm about to undermine you and make myself look brilliant' is annoying.
Someone who uses 'actually' to mean 'I'm sure that is true, but this study has shown other benefits to x,y,z that might make that irrelevant' is imparting useful information.

I think any phrase used repeatedly by someone who grates your cheese will be annoying as a focal point for their twattishness, when the poor word has done nothing to deserve a negative reputation.

BlowingThroughTheJasmineinMyMi · 04/07/2014 14:33

Alain de Botton writes well about superficially polite sentences that are really about annihilating the other person

really, tell us more....is actually one of his then? I like ADB