to not be assed to spend today making a cake to help with diabetes

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Just had a text from a work mate to remind me that tomorrow is the cake sale for diabetes UK.

I find this strange on so many levels. Firstly people should be encouraged to eat less cake to avoid most of it. Secondly I would have to run out to the shops , spend about a fiver and waste this afternoon.

Aibu to jus donate a fiver + gift aid and forget about it?

What an appalling idea

I work in chronic disease research, and diabetes is one of our main areas of focus. Barely a day goes by where someone doesn't bring cakes into the office, and the company supplies bloody loads of biscuits!! It's crazy. I don't eat anything like this and people are always commenting on my healthy eating - errr, why wouldn't I, we're meant to be the experts!!!

argy margy you make it sound like obesity and a sedentary lifesytle is the reason the vast majority of diabetics have diabetes and this simply isnt the case, not least because it doesnt acknowledge the different types. To me it smacks of victim blaming almost and is unfair given that it is such a complex disease with so many contributing factors.

of course a healthy lifestyle and diet should be encouraged but genetics play a huge part in diabetes, along with ethnicity, age and other factors and so to over simplify it does no one any good.

Innogen I said type 2. Type 2 accounts for 90% of diabetes.

And it is quite simple really. People who are slim, have an appropriate waist size, eat healthily and exercise regularly don't get type 2 diabetes.

Wonder what you think of pcos, weight gain and diabetes argymargy?

ArgyMargy And it is quite simple really. People who are slim, have an appropriate waist size, eat healthily and exercise regularly don't get type 2 diabetes.

Utter fucking rubbish. Please don't state things as fact that are not true.

I developed type 2 diabetes while pregnant. As stated above at the time of falling pregnant I regularly ran half marathons (I would run the distance at least once a fortnight) and was a size 10 / 12. I eat a very healthy diet. I was brought up with a very healthy lifestyle - my parents didn't even buy bread as they felt it contained too many unhealthy additives; everything we had was home made.

Other members of my family who are type 2 dietetics are also slim, eat healthily and exercise regularly.

I just think a cake sale where the people it is aiming to help can't partake is the bit that is off.

I have so many friends, family and neighbours with type 2 diabetes (it is rampant here in Mexico, probably partly genetic but mostly because of the consumption of soft drinks) and I have seen people whose day has been ruined by not being able to eat a slice of cake at a party.

ArgyMargy and any other ignorant idiot who thinks that only obese, unhealthy people who don't exercise get type 2 diabetes:

Think Skinny People Don't Get Type 2 Diabetes Think Again

Slim and Healthy People Also Get Type 2 Diabetes

If you don't want to read that's fine, but don't start spouting off that only obese people get type 2 spreading your ignorance.

Again, diabetics can eat cake. Moderation is the key.

I'm insulin controlled so I can just increase my insulin dose. Others who are controlled by diet just need to monitor what else they are eating.

It's only the very obese with diabetes who need to dramatically lose weight to improve their condition that need to abstain; don't put us all under that umbrella please.

I just knew this thread was going to cause trouble.

As I've already said my mum has type 2 diabetes. She was slightly overweight, but walked everywhere because both of my parents are blind. She started on tablets and then had to start injecting insulin. A few years later she is very slim, eats like a mouse and still has diabetes. Maybe for a few people, in whom it is caught early, there is a chance of it reversing, but on the whole you are stuck with it.

argymargy as other posters have pointed out what you just said was complete rubbish.

I used to work in an endocrine unit and have personally treated many people who were not overweight but were type 2 despite having healthy lifestyles. Please educate yourself before making such sweeping ignorant generalisations.

My partner has CFRD, and is actively encouraged to eat more carbs and keep his weight up...

What I would really like to see from diabetes UK and the press in general etc is a differentiation between type 1 and type 2. I was diagnosed type 1 as a young child, after I was stung by a nest full of wasps which they belive triggered it.

I can eat cake.

I play sport at an international level, so I don't have a sedentary lifestyle, my condition wasn't caused by eating too much chocolate or drinking full fat coke(I can't stand the stuff even if it's used to treat the odd low blood sugar) and that walking to work rather than taking the bus isn't going to cure me. I actually find it quite insulting that people come up with this shit like its ironic to have a bake sale for diabetesUK.

I've stopped telling a lot of non-essential people about my diabetes after I was left out of an office donut round on a Friday for someone's birthday because they thought it best I didn't have one.

And, it's not as simple as there being two types, CFRD has elements of both.

And it is quite simple really. People who are slim, have an appropriate waist size, eat healthily and exercise regularly don't get type 2 diabetes.

I'm genuinely stunned that someone, who clearly knows fuck all about this, would state this as a fact.

Sir Steve Redgrave was diagnosed with Type 2 in the 90's. Really, what utter shit you are talking Argy.

Good one Harry, yes Redgrave is clearly overweight, lazy and only has himself to blame for his condition lol.

Again, just for ArgyMargy *[[http://www.diabetes.org.uk >>DIABETES UK

I'm glad that there are at least some educated people on Mumsnet who are able to help refute the myths and ignorance being spread by others.

I have diabetes and I can eat cake. I just have to inject some insulin first. I generally choose not to, as I'm trying to lose weight at the moment but a non diabetic person trying to lose weight would also choose not to eat cake.
I wouldn't ever want to be treated differently because of people's preconceived ideas about what I can and can't eat. Or what I may have done to cause the condition (in my case, it's genetic. I got it when I was 15). Preconceived ideas spread by the likes of Argy Margy. Do please shut up Argy you really don't have the first clue what you are talking about.

AIBU to feel sorry for cake. It seems to have become the icon for unhealthy eating and is blamed for every disease and virus known to man. It's just cake the and the world would be a much poorer place without cake in it.

cake the and

Maggie you are type 1. I was referring to type 2. Innogen the people you saw in the endocrine unit were clearly complex, which is why they were treated in hospital. Again, the vast majority of patients with type 2 have developed it following decades of poor lifestyle, and are not treated in hospital but by GPs. Again, the first and ongoing treatment for type 2 diabetes according to NHS guidance is diet and lifestyle modification.

Again, this - People who are slim, have an appropriate waist size, eat healthily and exercise regularly don't get type 2 diabetes. is complete ignorance and what people have an issue with.

Again, if you don't know what you're talking about it's generally best to stop talking.

Argy I am actually not type 1 - I am MODY. Can you stop sprouting bollocks now please?