to not be assed to spend today making a cake to help with diabetes

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Just had a text from a work mate to remind me that tomorrow is the cake sale for diabetes UK.

I find this strange on so many levels. Firstly people should be encouraged to eat less cake to avoid most of it. Secondly I would have to run out to the shops , spend about a fiver and waste this afternoon.

Aibu to jus donate a fiver + gift aid and forget about it?

Some of the comments on here have infuriated me. I have family members with diabetes, including DP and obesity is not the only cause. I really think if you don't know the facts, don't comment!

Charlie my mum has type 2 diabetes and she was only very slightly overweight and certainly not obese. I agree with you.

You're right Randall so I'm out of it. I get so weary trying to explain the differences between Type 1 and Type 2 to people who don't want to listen. You wouldn't believe the amount of people who have made the 'ah, too many sweeties eh?' comment to me over the years. It's beyond tiresome.

Lot of people showing a lot of ignorance about the causes of diabetes, particularly T1 diabetes. Bake a cake or don't - it's up to you.

Yup, everyone's got an opinion on diabetes unfortunately.
And for some unknown reason they all genuinely think they are right.

It's one of the most widely misunderstood and misrepresent conditions out there but threads like this won't change that.

It'll just be pages of 'knowledgable insight' and lots of upset for those who actually do understand it.

I can't be bothered to spend today dealing with diabetes, but I suppose I should or I might die

firesidechat - it just gets me so annoyed. People's ignorance surrounding diabetes is unreal.

There is so much ignorance about diabetes and this is the second day in a row I've read comments on Mumsnet that have wound me up.

Obesity can be a cause of type 2 diabetes. It is not the only cause. You can be a slim type 2 diabetic. You can eat cake (live everybody, in moderation).

I'm a type 2 diabetic. I had gestational diabetes and it turned into type 2 diabetes post birth. At the start of my pregnancy I was a very fit, size 10/12 regularly running half marathons.

Type 2 diabetes runs in my family. None of the diabetics are larger than a size 14 (that's me at the moment, I could do with losing a stone but I've never been obese and I'm pregnant plus dealing with a toddler so dieting isn't top of my to do list). The slimmest, my sister, is a size 8.

There is so much misunderstanding about type 2 diabetes.

That said I'm not sure I'd rush to bake a cake this afternoon, I'd donate £5 instead, but not because it's wrong or ironic, but because it's sunny outside ...

I don't know much about type 1 diabetes, but I do know that it's something you either get or don't get (like some cancers) and not because of something that the person has done. Like eat cake.

Interesting about the viral link, which I wasn't aware of. The NHS website also suggests a possible viral cause for some type 1 diabetes.

I'm convinced there is a viral link as my brother became diabetic after glandular fever.

There are many instances oftype 1 being misdiagnosed as type 2. So if you are not obese but have type 2 it would be best to have genetic testing to rule out type 1.
There is also a theory of cows milk triggering.type 1 in some people.

Does it actually matter what type you have?

I'm genuinely interested and not trying to be awkward.

Is type 1 more likely to need insulin injections?

type 1 need insulin yes but so do significant numbers of type 2 so in that sense it doesnt make much difference.

Type 1 diabetics cannot make their own insulin so have to inject it or pump it or they will die. Type 2 can be treated with insulin, tablets, diet or sometimes lifestyle changes. Type 2 can be reversed. Type 1 is for life.

I don't know what's worse, selling cakes to help diabetics, or the ridiculous misapprehension that diabetics spontaneously combust or something if confronted by cake.

No wait, that's a lie actually: I do know which is worse.

Type 2 can be reversed in some cases, not all.

The two types are actually surprising different conditions.

There's lots of information available on the UK website that can help with busting the myths.

Fucked the link up.
I'll try again

*[[http://www.diabetes.org.uk >>DIABETES UK

Type 2 can be controlled; it can't be reversed

Calling people ignorant is just not on as even the experts disagree about causes and so on of diabetes. Baking cakes for a diabetes charity is madness. As having a raffle of wine and spirits to help alcoholics anonymous. It's just plain stupid. Type one is caused by pancreatic failure. Type two has a variety of causes But studies have shown that communities with a low refined sugar diet do not suffer from type two diabetes or hardly ever do.

tidypidy it not helpful to suggest type 2 can be reversed. For the majority it can't.

its completely disingenuous to compare alcohol and alcholics to cake and diabetics. One is directly linked and the other is a possible reason of being overweight which is possibly the reason that Some people become type 2. There are huge number of people who are diabetic who are not overweight.

But it can be reversed. Why not say it if it is true for some? I'm bowing out as there's more to life than arguing over this.

I'm sorry if I caused offence with the comment about alcohol. But there is a school of thought which says sugar is addictive and cravings for sugary foods is a reality. I still think that cakes to raise money for diabetes is a total no-no.

Innogen there may be a lot of people with diabetes that are not overweight, but the vast majority of people with type 2 diabetes are overweight or obese, have poor diet and sedentary lifestyle. That is why the first and ongoing treatment of the disease recommended by NICE guidance is diet and lifestyle change.

Mother of type 1 with coeliac here - cake needs to be gluten free, but it's certainly not off the menu here.

Type 1 is an autoimmune disease where the part of the pancreas which produces insulin stops working. That's why DS injects before every meal. If he's hypo, sugar, in the form of glucose tablet is a life saver.

I know less about Type 2 - it's not my specialist subject in the way Type 1 is - but I'm not aware of any direct cake --> diabetes links. But anyone unfortunate to have either should not be punished or shamed for their condition.

Moderation in everything...