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To hate "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger"?

100 replies

AndHarry · 20/06/2014 20:32

Really? The really painful experiences I've had have just made me feel tired, anxious and worn down. The last thing I want to hear is that I'm crap at suffering because I'm missing the learning experience that will make me stronger.

Or is it just me?

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ClockWatchingLady · 20/06/2014 20:51

Sorry to hear about the painful experiences.

I know what you mean. I suppose, like most mantras for hard times, it's helpful to some of the people some of the time. So it sticks. But hearing things that you don't relate to when you're down can be really lonely and difficult, I think.
Hope things improve, OP. Thanks

mommy2ash · 20/06/2014 20:57

im sorry you are having a hard time. just deal with things the best way for you and ignore the rest.

personally i like the saying. i try to use things as a learning curve and believe everything happens for a reason. not everyone has to agree though.

Wholenewsituation · 20/06/2014 20:58

Yep....someone said that to me the day after my daughter was diagnosed with leaukaemia. Fuck off Angry

PrincessBabyCat · 20/06/2014 21:00

Yeah, I don't get it either. You just sort of brave the storm and get over it so to speak. It doesn't make the next storm any easier though.

OberonTheHopeful · 20/06/2014 21:01

I'm sorry things are so difficult for you :( I hate that phrase too.

AndHarry · 20/06/2014 21:02

Things are pretty good at the moment :) I heard that song in the car earlier and it brought back memories of things that have happened and how right in the middle of trying to cope with them I was very hard on myself because I felt I was failing to suffer 'constructively'.

I suppose it must be comforting and motivating to some people. For people like me though it just adds another layer of pressure.

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AndHarry · 20/06/2014 21:04

Wholenewsituation that's awful, what a crap thing to say to you!

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BitchPeas · 20/06/2014 21:04

I feel the same as you OP. I really feel like saying....

The PTSD and anxiety that has followed it, has realllllly made me into a strong human being, who learnt a life lesson my soul had been missing. Thanks twat face, thank you very much Smile

But I don't. Grin

OberonTheHopeful · 20/06/2014 21:05

I'm really glad things are good for you right now :)

Loopylouu · 20/06/2014 21:07

It's a load of shit. I hate that saying. I may not be dead, but I've been left pretty traumatised and changed forever from some horrendous experiences.

ClockWatchingLady · 20/06/2014 21:08

Oh I'm glad, AndHarry.

I don't find it great, either. Personally, I find the "when you're going through hell, keep going"/"just keep breathing in and out in that order" style of mantra infinitely more useful. But it does seem to work for others.

Loopylouu · 20/06/2014 21:09

wholenewsituation what a terrible thing for someone to say Sad

ClockWatchingLady · 20/06/2014 21:10

Blimey, Wholenew Sad
How is your DD doing?

AndHarry · 20/06/2014 21:13

Thanks to everyone who has been kind.

Snap BitchPeas, although mine goes something along the lines of "Yes, those ongoing self-esteem issues are thrilling, as was the counselling I had for a whole year to enable me to go back to that particular place without breaking down. I so thankful I had that opportunity!"

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AdiposeLoveMe · 20/06/2014 21:15

I have a friend who has this phrase as a tattoo.
It's a rubbish saying.
And not true.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 20/06/2014 21:19

It taps into the idea that life is fair and controllable. Neither of which are true.

It falls into the same category of being rude/ callous/ dismissive to people who are unfortuneate to have more than one awful thing happen to them, saying they must love the drama. There is drama, and then there is bereavement, ravaging illness, spiralling into other things like abuse, debt, homelessness, loss of income etc etc.

People cannot cope with multiple tragedies happening, or just one massive one which destroys your support system. And yes, it happens. And no, they don't deserve it, it's not that they weren't smart enough or clever enough or strong enough... It's just that life can be brutal.

My life has been tragedy after tragedy for the last 5 years, wave after wave of wrecking ball style damage, never enough time to heal or reciver or get on top of life again. I've been destroyed by it (although virtually no one in rl choses to see, mostly there's no one there to see), and i am pretty damn tough and resourceful. Although I fight every day, the only reason I'm still here is to give my son his life. The worse thing has been people's reactions to me as I threaten their preconceptions about life.

I empathize alot Flowers. Thea kind of platitudes can be very upsetting when you're the exception x

ExCinnamon · 20/06/2014 21:25

Hate this saying.
Not true. Some things you only barely survive. They don't make you stronger at all.
Some things are just shit, and have no reason.

expatinscotland · 20/06/2014 21:25

It's crap.

My daughter died. She was 9. It didn't make me stronger.

Sallystyle · 20/06/2014 21:27

It's a fucking stupid saying.

I am not stronger for having a sociopathic dad for instance. I am strong despite him, not because of him.

And now, every hardship doesn't make me stronger. Sometimes things break you. Or if they don't break you they give you gigantic scars.

BigChocFrenzy · 20/06/2014 21:28

It's sometimes used to inspire people undergoing a tough fitness training session or competition.
It can be good motivation in those very specialised circumstances, provided there is not too much pressure to succeed.

However, it's totally twisted and callous to say it to anyone who is suffering problems or distress.

ClockWatchingLady · 20/06/2014 21:28

expat, I'm so sorry.

softlysoftly · 20/06/2014 21:28

Have you seen Modern Family?

I love the kid in that when his step dad gives him that crap saying as a poster.

His response "apart from Polio."

Oh and that heart disease thingy xs dad has, he's on oxygen now isn't he mum?

Was actually a very funny episode.

YANBU

AndHarry · 20/06/2014 21:28

Oh expat :(

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BigChocFrenzy · 20/06/2014 21:29

So sorry for your loss, expat

Sallystyle · 20/06/2014 21:30

Oh and everything happens for a reason is more trite too.

I am sure my kids didn't lose their father for a reason. He had cancer and died because life can be cruel. There was no reason or rhyme for it and it didn't happen to my family for a 'reason'.

I am pretty sure it was just bad luck that I was conceived by my father. No reason for that either. Well, except my mum and dad had sex of course ;)

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