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AIBU?

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to tell my mother I've had enough? (v v long)

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HouseLikeAZoo · 19/06/2014 09:27

This is my first AIBU, and it's a huge long backstory one. My situation is quite distinctive so I will probably out myself here.

I am considering writing to my mum to tell her that I've had enough of her selfish behaviour. I suspect it will end with me going NC. I really just want some advice from you all about whether I will come to regret it - and I need to be told to grow a spine after years of pandering to her.

Short version: my mum is in her third marriage. My brother & I are from her first marriage. When we toddlers, my parents divorced, and unusually, custody was split so that I stayed with my mum and my brother with my dad. This was back in the 70's and not in the UK. My father was/still is an alcoholic and not in any way fit to be a parent. Still, my mum "gave" him her 3-yr old DS and moved away with me. She tells me it was "to save having a long court battle". My brother's life has turned out ok but has seen him having to basically raise himself, clear up after my DF and generally go through more shit than anyone deserves. He has had little contact with my mum although remains civil to her.

I have since then had two more "dads", and at primary school age, moved to the UK (my mum as she had an affair with a Brit & then came here to marry him). I spoke no English when we moved and found the whole thing pretty horrific. I knew no-one and was separated from all my friends & rest of my family. My brother was left behind in another country, but my mum didn't seem to find the happiness of either of her kids a huge concern.

Throughout my childhood & now adulthood, my mum has treated me like hired help. I was charged with the family cooking, cleaning and laundry from the age of 12 onwards. If my standard of my dusting & ironing weren't high enough, I'd have to do it again. Leaving for university was a relief - although I had no financial support from my (well off) parents, it was nice to be my own person. However her selfish behaviour did not stop; It's always all about her.

I'm now married with a lovely DH and two DSs. When I had a miscarriage with complications, I received no sympathy and no visit from her. When my children were small, she made it clear that they were in her opinion "feral" and that she had no desire to help us (this despite the fact that my father in law died when my boys were 1 & 3 and we were desperate for support). When I told her I'd been referred to the breast cancer clinic her response was to complain bitterly about her terrible luck because her kitchen fit was going badly. I didn't tell her about my depression for months, but when I finally confided in her, she told me I should count myself lucky that my DH hadn't left me because of it.

All the while she expects me to do her bidding unquestioningly. She phones me to tell me to sort out her computer/kindle/tv/phone, she requires me to sell stuff on eBay for her (and then blames me for not getting enough profit on her old cowboy boots), she expects me (and DH) to come over to dig garden features/paint ceilings/shift stuff whenever she wants, she thinks nothing of phoning ahead when coming to visit to request her favourite wine/food/coffee be waiting for her. She gives me her hand-me-down clothes and shoes as presents, and once agreed to one evening of babysitting my boys as my birthday present from her.

Stupidly, I have let her away with it for 37 years.

The final straw came last week. My stepfather has been very poorly and my mum has been visiting him every day in hospital. She wanted a weekend off from visiting, so told me to visit on saturday (I was going anyway so no probs) and told my stepbrother to visit on Sunday. My stepbrother couldn't make Sunday, so decided to come with me on Saturday instead. When my mum got wind of this, she lost the plot completely, told my DSB that she was gutted he was doing this, and generally spent a Friday night messaging him and me, ranting on about how everything was ruined. For some reason she had decided that only she could be in charge of the hospital visiting schedule and thought it was reasonable for her to forbid my Dad's own son from visiting when he wanted to. For the first time in my adult life I told her that she had gone too far, and her response was stunning.

She refused to talk to me, except to tell me she didn't want to talk to me. When I asked her how dad was, she refused to tell me. She texted me to tell me that she won't be in touch. This carried on for days, until she decided she needed me to do her a favour (drive a 2-hr round trip to lend her a garden item) and then she got back in touch as if nothing had happened.

I've had enough. I've written her a letter to tell her all of the above and to tell her that I'm sick of giving and getting nothing but grief in return. AIBU to send it?

OP posts:
Hissy · 20/06/2014 23:27

Hmmmm... well how can you tell her how to fix what you didn't break?

This is something she needs to work out hersElf.

I too am sceptical about the remorse. If you don't react to that, what reaction do you think you'll get?

She has to take full and complete responsibility for her actions, and she has to put t right. You've drawn your line, she's now trying to suck you in so you can bbe told to stfu somehow.

EverythingCounts · 21/06/2014 00:17

I would be inclined to give a neutral reply saying you need some time and space and would like her to give you that. See if she quickly changes her tune when you won't immediately tell her the answers and say all is forgiven. Then you also have time to think.

CottonbudCatastrophe · 21/06/2014 00:32

She sounds awful. YANBU & well done for taking this step.

She's an adult, she needs to start acting like one, taking responsibility for her own actions, thinking about the consequences, & how she can rebuild bridges with you. Then when, & if, you ever feel ready, then will be the time to let her back into your life, a bit at a time. She has a massive hill to climb, to prove that she's changed, and frankly I suspect she hasn't changed at all - she just wants to keep you around to run around after her & look after her. You have your own family to look after now & she increasingly feels like she can't control you so she is trying to 'win you back'.

Stay strong & stick to your guns. You've taken the hard first step. If she's sincere in her desire to change & improve her relationship with you, she'll wait until you're ready.

DoJo · 21/06/2014 01:07

Wow - I bet that's knocked you for six! It would almost be easier if she was denying it, turning it back on you or angry, but at least you have a response and can act upon it. It sounds like you are rightly wary that this is another attempt to manipulate you, but personally I would be inclined to take it at face value for now at least. If she genuinely wants to make amends, then letting her could give you some much-needed validation, and if she doesn't then she will show her hand soon enough and you can deal with that if/when it comes to it.
I suppose what you really need to do is think about what she can actually do to make things better. Perhaps point out to her that she cannot undo the hurt she has caused in the past, but more thoughtful behaviour going forward would help you to feel as though things have really changed and allow you to build a relationship which isn't just about her needs and her desires. It's really hard not to go over old ground and bring up past incidents, but it might not be helpful to battle over individual events, rather addressing the repeated behaviours which lead to your feelings of frustration and explain how it made you feel to have your experiences minimised or your time treated as though it's worthless, so citing specific occurrences, where relevant, could help illustrate your point and help her to understand how her dismissive attitude makes you feel.

I hope that she has really had an epiphany and changes the way she treats you - best of luck!

PrincessBabyCat · 21/06/2014 01:26

Hmm... Either she's genuinely remorseful and wants to try and make things right now that stepfather being sick has smack her over the head with her own mortality. Or she needs you to do something for her sometime soon. Or she wants to say "look I tried, daughter still hates me, I can't do right by her" to the rest of the family.

My mom and I had to work 5 years to get our relationship back from what she did when I was a child. But we have a great relationship now. It didn't happen overnight though. DH and FIL have a shattered relationship, and I really don't think it will ever be repaired beyond a few polite phone calls and visits.

Even if your mom does want to change, keep in mind old habits are hard to break. She might be good for a week, and then revert back to her old self. So if she's serious, and you're both willing, be prepared for the long hall.

daisychain01 · 21/06/2014 08:19

Think carefully about next steps....

Please believe me when I say that once you have stood up to someone like this, they will suck you back onside just so they can hurt you even more badly next time

TheHoneyBadger · 21/06/2014 08:24

agree with the 'i need you to give me time' advice. put a boundary down and see if she is capable of heeding it. re: what you can do is give me some time and space and maybe use that yourself to think about things.

then wait and see.

i would never got what you got from your mother BUT my sister possibly would as she is the one she wants/needs enmeshed with her whereas my mother just wanted access to my son.

FunkyBoldRibena · 21/06/2014 08:41

I would tell her you will be in touch and you need a break from all this stress. Then have a think about whether the break was enjoyable or whether you can set your stall out and tell her what you expect from a mother - or whether you just want to draw a line under it now.

Difficult but her response might, just might, lead to a better relationship now.

DaddyBeer · 21/06/2014 08:49

Agree with other posters her response sounds too off-pat and easy. Expecting you to tell her how to fix it? No.

Agree that your best tactical move right now is to put some breathing space in for yourself so you can get some perspective. This will also allow you to see how (and indeed whether) things are different with reduced contact.

As for the fixing? My response would be something along the lines of, "You have a think about that". Put that shit right back where it belongs.

You are doing the right thing and well done.

ivykaty44 · 21/06/2014 08:51

I wouldn't write her a letter of explanation - she doesn't deserve it.

Just text and say you preferred the none contact and think it is better all round if you return to that set up - fullstop

get her out of your life and don't look back

Whatisaweekend · 21/06/2014 09:17

I would reply that you have had 37 years of this shit and frankly it's just too damn late.

noneofyours · 22/06/2014 12:57

Words are meaningless without actions OP. If you want fixing of things then I'd go with joint counselling to air all this out. IF she refuses, well her actions on't tally with words. IF you want to say no it's not fixable then do that instead.

Stratter5 · 22/06/2014 13:03

I'm not a fan of counselling with manipulators; I know it wouldn't work for me, as it would mean my mother admitting she was wrong. And that will happen when hell freezes over imo.

I think you need to sit down and weigh up what positive factors your mum brings to your life, and the negatives; then go from there. Being a grandparent is NOT a positive, if she was a shit parent, chances are she will be just as damaging a grandparent

Hissy · 22/06/2014 13:10

Good god no to counselling! That's about the worst idea possible!

Counselling for the OP, on her own, yes. Together with someone as self focused as her mother? No. Never.

She'd make it all about her. She'd recruit the counsellor to her side and use them to further emotionally batter the op.

If she couldn't do that, if the counsellor sided with the op, she'd throw an immense Hissy fit at strop off.

Probably.

Walkacrossthesand · 22/06/2014 13:28

Is she still hoping that you'll do the 2 hour round trip with garden item - is this just soft soap to keep you sweet enough to do her bidding? Could you take her at face value, keep your defences up, be very firm about piss takes (essentially, never put yourself out for her) and see how that works?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 22/06/2014 13:53

It's Sunday so hang on to the letter until tomorrow just in case you want to rethink it - or add something to it.

So sorry, OP, that's a horrible situation to be in and you are in no way unreasonable to feel the way you do or act in response as you see fit.

BrunoBrookesDinedAlone · 22/06/2014 13:58

It's not genuine.

Tell her to go to hell.

You want a better life/family dynamic for your children than you had? Want to be happy? Want your DH to have a loving, together, happy wife?

Ditch the leech. She has always, and will always, TAKE from you to feather her own nest.

Don't reply to her. Keep your distance. And don't beleive the bullshit she will spout to keep her slave at her side.

EllaFitzgerald · 22/06/2014 14:01

It sounds far too easy to me. Someone who behaves like that is unlikely to have an epiphany about their behaviour just because it's been pointed out to them. It's all a bit suspicious.

If you want to reply, turn it around on her. Ask her how she thinks she can fix things. However, I'm not convinced you'll see a long term change.

HouseLikeAZoo · 22/06/2014 15:35

Thank you all so much for taking the time to read & post. It's so reassuring to hear from others in similar situations.

So, after my mum's apparently remorseful reply where she asked me what I wanted her to do, I sent her a brief message. In it I said that I have no grand plan, and that there's no single thing she can do. I also said:

"Telling you how you make me feel was a very difficult first step for me. I now need to stop feeling like that and while I don't have all the answers, it's clear that a large part of the solution is seeing a change in how you treat me."

And guess what she came back with? This.

"If you so wish I will keep away as long as you want to, will not ring, text or email. You get in touch if/when you are ready to tell me what next."

So, I guess that's the answer. NC.

OP posts:
WTFlike · 22/06/2014 15:43

I read that as her just giving you space, not a sulk. Could it not be that?

Jollyphonics · 22/06/2014 15:47

I hate replies like that. Basically she's now ensured that she can say "well I tried but she didn't want to know", and make you the bad guy.

I would suggest that you reply saying that you would like her to think long and hard about how she's treated you, how she's totally ignored her children's feelings, how she's blighted your life with her selfishness. When she's thought about it, maybe had some counselling too deal with her selfishness issues, talked to other people, and worked out how she can make amends, then you'd be very pleased to hear from her. Put the ball back in her court, don't let her get away with walking away and telling the world it was your choice.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 22/06/2014 15:49

That sounds very dismissive of her. Take the opportunity to have a break and see if that makes you feel any differently.

If she was giving you space rather than sulking, I would have expected something more like this, "You're my daughter and I love you. Our relationship is so important to me. Take whatever time you need, you know where I am, love mum". Not what you received, it's quite pompous.

HouseLikeAZoo · 22/06/2014 15:49

It could be that she's being nice by giving me space. I'm cynical though and have taken it as a strop. I asked her to change her behaviour towards me, and she's now doing that by staying away. I suppose that's easier than treating me like a proper person?

I don't know what to think really. It's been exhausting to write this letter and I guess I stupidly thought that things would magically get resolved afterwards - it was never going to be that simple though, was it?

OP posts:
quietbatperson · 22/06/2014 16:01

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 22/06/2014 16:15

I meant her being dismissive of you, OP, not the other way around. Re-read my post and it looks like it could be either way. I thought she's being dismissive.