To think Colin Firth and Emma Stone in Woody Allen's new movie at 28 years age difference is a little creepy?

[mrsjavierbardem]

I mean I know it's fine and legal, Colin Firth is lovely etc.

But why is it always these minty old buggers and these women who are young enough to be their daughters?
I mean, isn't anyone involved a little embarrassed by this kind of casting?
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Though there are a few father son ones in there to.

How many films has he made now based on his own fixation of very young woman and old/middle aged man?

I think it hides in the mist of generally odd/crappy age casting decisions - there for all to see but not so extreme or unusal it can't be ignored.

No, you're right MrsJoe - here is the article I was thinking of. Makes quite an interesting read!

You may hate Woody Allen's films, but that is a separate issue.

Not for me, claraschu. I find the same questionable beliefs that seem to underpin his private life, pervade his films entirely.

His worldview is not particularly interesting, is it. He's obsessed with sex, and wealth, and has nothing interesting to say about either.

He's made a lot of films, and many without the extreme age gaps, but some of them are rather :

Manhattan(1979): 26 year age difference (Woody Allen, 43; Mariel Hemingway, 17)

The Curse of the Jade Scorpion (2001): 28 year age difference (Woody Allen, 66; Helen Hunt, 38)

Mighty Aphrodite (1995): 31 year age difference (Woody Allen, 58; Mira Sorvino, 27; Helena Bonham Carter, 29)

Everyone Says I Love You (1996): 30 year age difference (Woody Allen, 59; Julia Roberts, 29)

Hollywood Ending(2002): 34 year age difference (Debra Messing, 33; Woody Allen, 67) - He doesn't seem to have a problem casting himself opposite some of HW's most beautiful actresses either!

Whatever Works (2009): 41 year age difference (Larry David, 62; Evan Rachel Wood, 21)

You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger (2010): 39 year age difference (Anthony Hopkins, 72; Lucy Punch, 33)

I was going to say, I'm five years older than Emily Blunt and I wouldn't say no to Colin Firth. Then I realised I was thinking of how he looked in Mamma Mia and Love Actually... I saw him recently in the Railway Man and he is getting old now.

YANBU OP, it is icky how Hollywood pairs old guys with girls young enough to be their daughters, especially when it's Woody Allen, who's got a lot of form for it.

I think the separation of art and artist is more of an argument when the artist is dead and cannot personally benefit from social approval.

1. Saville didn't have public accusations at the time. Unfortunately that was down to the police.
2. I didn't say whether or not I believed Dylan Farrow, because I stated a fact, doesn't mean anything other than I stated a fact.

I read Dyan Farrow said something about certain celebrities who were her friend,not believing her about the abuse,and she said something like "im lookin at you Emma Stone" so i think EMma Stone may actually be friends with him.(WA)

Off topic a bit but i didnt realize people thought that a big age gap was weird when the younger person is in their twenties/thirties?

There is no way, for me, that the facts of his relationship with Soon Yi could be twisted presented, that would allay my concern. Dylan Farrow aside. And all the people who talk about Dylan and her siblings being raised in a toxic environment - as if that implicates only her mother, and not her father (WA) - who in fact is absolved by it! make me angry.

Sorry, just realised am totally rehashing arguments about WA and Dylan Farrow thoroughly exercised on an old thread. Makes me so cross though.

tooth I think to some extent you're right, in that if I met a couple IRL who had made that choice I wouldn't jump to conclusions about it being inappropriate, prima facie. But I think what we're talking about here is the systemic, unrelenting conception of men and women's sexuality and attractiveness. That the only women who are supposed to enjoy sex are young women, and only with a man, and only on his terms and for his gratification.

As my own father is only 21 years older than me then ,yes, I do find it icky. As for older women/younger men scenarios, the only similar thing that springs to my mind is the wonderful film with Anne Reid and Daniel Craig , The Mother www.imdb.com/title/tt0323298/

See this is another reason why I love Tom Hanks. He does better than any of the others at having love interests closer to his age. See clicky below...

www.vulture.com/2013/04/leading-men-age-but-their-love-interests-dont.html

And yes to WA being creepy. I boycott his films.

WA doesn't even have to pay for great actors, they fall over themselves for the kudos of being in his films. Heard Carey Mulligan on radio 4 last night talking about her latest stage role playing opposite Bill Nighy who looks like a walking skeleton and is surely old enough to be her Grandad!
Plus it's the women who have to get their kit off while these old buggers waltz around in their dressing gowns!

The whole notion that the men can look and behave in entirely unappealing ways, yet have much younger and more attractive women fighting over them, is an unrealistic wank fantasy for sad old men. I've seen a few of his films over the years and can't understand why people rave about them. Would be interested in a really robust feminist critique.

Plus it's the women who have to get their kit off while these old buggers waltz around in their dressing gowns!

Well quite.

I think its a related issue to that issue of film scipts rarely having two female character talk to each other about things other than men.

I like watching films but when you sit down and look at the ideas they project as automatic it is quite disturbing.

I'm afraid I've always thought Colin Firth was a creepy old man, even when he was supposedly in his prime.

And I'm astonished Woody Allan is still alive (isn't he 120?) never mind making his restricted audience commercially unviable outdated films.

I don't like Woody Allen movies but I feel the need to repeat this again because it keeps coming up.

She was not his step daughter. He never lived in the same house as her. He was not her adoptive father. He was not married to her mother.

Yes it is creepy to run off with your girlfriend's daughter.

But it is not incestuous.

Also she has a name that seems to be ignores. Soon-Yi Previn (her father is Andre Previn). Yes there is a 30 year age difference which is icky. But she was 27 when they married so old enough to have a good idea of how to manage her own life. She is also well educated, so intelligent. And they have been married 17 years which isn't bad going. I do wonder if now at 43 she regrets spending her youth with someone so much older but that is something only she knows.

I'm not surprised at all by these casting decisions, but I was left speechless by a trailer for a film where 67-year-old Susan Sarandon plays grandmother to 43-year-old Melissa McCarthy. I mean, it's sort of great that the film has been made at all with two women in lead roles like that, but wtf?

But then if Angelina Jolie can play Colin Farrell's mother, anything is possible I suppose.

Rock Hudson had several films with Doris Day. He was born 3 years after she was. Close enough?

Hum. We can like or not his movies, we can agree or not with his choices of casting, we can have an opinion about private matters like who is his current wife and we can choose to believe or not in the terrible child abuse topic, keeping in mind he has not been taken to court at the moment I write.
But, ladies, what kind of women are we if we deny the absolute right to any woman to date any man of her choice, would he be short or tall, blond or dark, young or old? Why being so judgmental about age "propriety"? Really? Do you all really believe love and relationships are only proper and acceptable when in line with the "correct" age gap?
A movie director is obsessed with younger women? So what?
Colin Firth stars a movie with a younger actress? So what? He happens to be quite handsome and talented, but being talented alone would be enough. So now that he is in his 50s he should be definitively forbidden to ever interact with a younger woman? And same for Emma Stone, or any other actress, should she be forbidden to ever interact with any actor that would not be or the "proper" age? Come on ladies! It's cinema. It's "sublimation" of real life. Exageration most of the times. And in real life we date whom ever we want within the law, of course. If we are strong enough to fight against prejudice, of course.

I know they didn't live together. But didn't Woody Allen, and Soon-Yi's mother, Mia, adopt some children together, and have biological children of their own? That would make them very much a family, would it not?