To think Colin Firth and Emma Stone in Woody Allen's new movie at 28 years age difference is a little creepy?

[mrsjavierbardem]

I mean I know it's fine and legal, Colin Firth is lovely etc.
But why is it always these minty old buggers and these women who are young enough to be their daughters?
I mean, isn't anyone involved a little embarrassed by this kind of casting?
sigh

[mrsjavierbardem]

Emily Blunt is fabulous looking but Colin doesn't ring my bell any more, he's moved into understanding uncle but in a platonic way, for me.

[MrsAlexVause]

Completely off point but I'd ride both Colin and Emma.

[muffinino82]

patrick stewart eww minty bezzer, 37 years?

I understand those words, just not in that order never thought I'd see S'Patrick teamed with eww! 42 years older than me, btw

[mrsjavierbardem]

here is a list of biggest age gap Hollywood relationships in order of biggest age gaps
sorry but mostly ewwww

patrick stewart eww minty bezzer, 37 years?
I don't mean to be prejudiced and I did always have crushes on older men when I was a younger lass - but now I just look and think that I couldn't have done it!

[rootypig]

Real life parallel that occurred to me - Mia Farrow was 19 when she was married to Frank Sinatra, who was 51

[ElephantsAndMiasmas]

What about this then? Bill Nighy (64) playing opposite less than half his age 29 year old Carey Mulligan. And they're supposed to be "former lovers"? When? When he was a young man of 50 and she was just 15?

I notice Nighy was in the 1996 production aged 46, playing opposite a 32 year old at that time. I wonder whether he ever notices that although he may have lived longer, women he is paid to engage with just keep getting younger and younger.

[Elsiequadrille]

I liked Match Point. Though I had no idea it was a Woody Allen film.

[mrsjavierbardem]

Good points for and against Woody, we can never really know and also, may I say, although Mia is obvs amazing, there are some people who think she's a deranged Hollywood über adopter (runs and hides under table).
Nowif he is guilty re Dylan than nothing mitigates that I only want to say that their family arrangement had almost no familiar norms which may have contributed to an unhealthy set of relationships, we don't know what happened. It doesnt look good: but he was not convicted.

Muffin: lol lol lol lol lol

Also re match point: respect to your admitting liking it in public! I found it beyond execrable! Shockingly bad in terms of it's presentation of British class.
BUT you could see that film as showing a VERY unhealthy relationship between Scarlett Johannsen and Woody. If you watch that film as wish fulfilment on Woody's part, ie Henry VIII playing Woody's fantasy man (tennis pro puh- leese!) you would have to watch the film with a vom bowl .

[katese11]

Fair dos dizzy :D

[NynaevesSister]

Muffin you made me feel old! Ugh no to the Loki horns. But then for what I have in mind they'd definitely be in the way.

Eric point taken about the siblings and the length of the relationship - I do agree which is why I commented that using up her youth on an old guy is something only Soon-Yi can comment on. But I can't help but feel anyone would regret that when they reach their 40s and look back.

My point though about Step Daughter status stands. There is a difference in a relationship where someone has a parenting role and where they don't. Siblings or not, there was nothing in the relationship that suggests he had a parenting role.

[somedizzywhore1804]

Kate another great/terrible line is from old Johnathan-Rhys-Henry-VIII when asked if he likes teaching tennis: "I don't mind it for now but I'd simply slit my throat if I thought I had to do it forever". Also, much is made of his poor, Irish upbringing but he has the poshest most English accent ever.

Despite that I do like it because I think the storyline is actually really clever and the concept of how so much in this life hinges on luck is a really perceptive one. Which way will the ball go? I also really like (SPOILER ALERT) that he gets away with it all, even though he's a dickhead, adulterous, lying arsehole.

The morality tale is that there is no justice, almost. Nola, for all her flighty princessyness does love truly and act genuinely according to what she believes.... But her luck has been shit from day one, growing up poor and with an alcoholic mother, not getting the acting roles despite being as good and as beautiful as the others she's competing with. Chris, on the other hand, is this bizarre Walter Mitty guy who will be whatever he needs to be to get what best benefits him, but he succeeds in life because he's fallen on his feet simply by virtue of his wife falling in love with him. His wife and brother in law are weak and completely reliant on their fathers wealth, but for from learning anything from any of the events in the film, they just float along on this sea of good fortune. They all literally live or die according to which way the ball falls over their net.

But I think I'm the only person who had this analysis of it because I just googled it and it's got something abysmal like a 2% approval rating from the critics Maybe I understand what Woody Allen was driving at because I'm a wrong un/pretentious twat too

[katese11]

Sorry somedizzy it was one of the worst films I've ever seen "mother, don't you know that's her achilles heel, emotionally speaking?"

[taccure]

"Nynaeves, if he was in a relationship with her mother then to all intents and purposes she was his step daughter. They were hardly a fly by night romance, they were together for years and had children together, soon-yi's siblings. The fact that they never lived together means jack shit in terms of legitimising that relationship."

Yes, that's what I said. Woody and Mia had children together; adopted some and had their own biological children. Soon yi's siblings.

[Alisvolatpropiis]

Woody Allen is revolting.

My dp is 18 years older than me, so the automatic "OMG looks older enough to be her dad" thing is somewhat tiresome.

Emma Stone and Colin Firth isn't believable. Emily Blunt and Colin Firth is.

[EhricLovesTheBhrothers]

Nynaeves, if he was in a relationship with her mother then to all intents and purposes she was his step daughter. They were hardly a fly by night romance, they were together for years and had children together, soon-yi's siblings. The fact that they never lived together means jack shit in terms of legitimising that relationship.

It also grinds my gears when people use longevity as a benchmark for a decent relationship. The fact that they are still together might mean they have a geta, healthy relationship, or it might just as well mean that he groomed her from such a young age that she never had the strength or wherewithal to leave him.

[muffinino82]

Nyn happily Mr Hiddleston is only a year older than me so that's fine but he'd have to wear the Loki horns

[NynaevesSister]

Muffin I don't even want to look at how much younger than me Aidan Turner and Tom Hiddleston are but I'd definitely join you in the pony riding.

Actually just thinking about it there's a twenty year gap between Tilda Swintons and Tom Hiddleston but there was nothing icky about them together in Only Lovers.

[NynaevesSister]

Argh! She wasn't his step daughter.

He and Mia Farrow were never married and never lived together.

[muffinino82]

Colin Firth is 22 years older the me but I'd ride him like a show pony spectacularly misses point of thread

[somedizzywhore1804]

Haha Rooty I know some of the acting is wooden- not least from Old John Rhys-Henry-VIII- but I think it's a really well written and thought provoking story.

[somedizzywhore1804]

(Whispers)

Me too Wigglesrock. But I'm a bit embarrassed by that now as absolutely everyone else seems to hate him.

I know he's a but dodgy- step daughter debacle has proven that- but as he's never been convicted of any crime I didn't know all "right thinking" people were boycotting him til I started reading this thread.

[rootypig]

somedizzy, Match Point is universally derided as utter shite

[wigglesrock]

I liked it too, although I do like most of Woody Allens films in general.

[somedizzywhore1804]

Aside from loving a bit of Colin, I'm also clearly the only person ever in the cinema-going world who liked Match Point. It's one of my absolute favourite films!! I've never watched it with anyone who didn't love it either. Thought it was very clever indeed. I'm obviously more of a knobhead than even I knew

There's no creepy age gap in that one though!

[ElephantsAndMiasmas]

I thought most real life Hollywood partnerships were between people of roughly the same age? And then you have ones where the woman is older, like Hugh Jackman's (his wife is 15 years older than him), Jason Momoa/Lisa Bonet (12 years) and Aaron Johnson/Sam Taylor-Johnson's (23 years) which I do find a bit gross as he was so young when they got together.

It seems to be something that Hollywood allows on screen though, presumably on the basis that men watching it will love it, and women watching it will just have to put up with it, and keep lying to themselves that the most attractive thing about a man is his sense of humour