To think it is literally not possible to be "offended" by poor grammar and punctuation as some posters claim.

[ElleBellyBeeblebrox]

Honestly, who gives a shit? The amount of smug wankery on here sometimes is unbelievable. Is there really any justification for snarking at someone about their use of full stops,( other than to try and make yourself look like a smartarse.)

I think that there are at least 2 misunderstandings going on in this thread.

Only 2!

I am so confused.

No-one has been driven out.

Unless we are talking about the numerous non-perfect-English users whose posts have been subject to the snidey comments, the TAATs in Pedants' Corner and the ridicule by "well-known and prolific posters".

I imagine there have been quite a few of those. And who can blame them.

candy, there is no confusion.

Some posters don't write perfect English. Some posters get humphy about that. Other posters tell the humphy ones to get a fucking life and stop belittling other people. Humphy people get more humphy.

Oohhh, I do like a nice humph, of a morning!

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Sorry, I didn't mean my post to seem like I was implying you had attacked her. I know you didn't. I have already strongly expressed my displeasure towards those who had!

After previous pages, I was well, rather disturbed, and was worried about there being too much emphasis on the one with sensory issues having social skills, when this thread illustrated that isn't enough. Unless maybe having social skills now requires not even admitting you have problems with anything. In which case, there's loads of whinges threads on MN that shouldn't exist either, in the interests of not having double-standards.

But I did not at any point think you had attacked her. I'm very sorry that it sounded like I did.

tilly I accept that people have sensory problems but I do not accept that a sensory problem such as the one described by why amounts to a disability in the vast scheme of disabilities.

But that is my opinion, and of course, I could be wrong.

I have a sensory problem with heights. Being high up makes me very nervous and seeing someone else in that position makes me feel physically sick too.

I had to walk away when I saw someone cleaning his fourth floor window by sitting backwards on his windowledge with the sash window jammed down over his thighs.

The other day I watched a film where a character standing on a high ledge almost fell off and that triggered the stabbing pains in the soles of my feet that I associate with fear of heights.

Being low down but too close to danger for my comfort does too, so I stand as far away from platform edges as I can, and get annoyed by people on crowded platforms who stand in such a way that forces me closer to the edge than I'd like when passing them.

However, that's not a disability, IMO. It is my problem, not theirs.

I appreciate that like me with my sensory problem with heights, why does not bring her sensory problem to people's attention. Except on here, where she called it a disability.

IMO, it's not.

Well - whether or not you define it as a disability, you accept that sensory issues can cause genuine feelings of discomfort, even acute discomfort, limited - so it would be wrong if anyone on here disbelieved another poster, who said that sensory issues meant that spelling, grammatical,or punctuation errors caused them real feelings of discomfort, woildnt it?

STDG I don't disbelieve why's discomfort. As I've explained, I have the same discomfort myself involving a different sensory reaction. In describing it, I got the same painful pins and needles feelings in my hands and feet and sweat on my back and forehead, and will do every time I remember it.

So I do understand how powerful sensory reactions can be and indeed that they can be far more serious than the discomfort suffered by why and me.

I don't accuse you of causing my unpleasant physical reactions by asking me to explain myself either. It's not your problem; it's mine and it's my decision to participate in this thread. If it hurt me too much, I'd avoid it.

But I would never describe my feelings as a disability or demand an apology for what was a snarky but essentially lighthearted comment about the people I used to work with who jokingly claimed my bad English caused them physical pain.

That's why IMO it was a total over-reaction on her part.

I'm sorry, limited - I should have been more clear - I wasn't accusing you of disbelieving why - but I have the impression that some on this thread have disbelieved her. I was hoping your account of your discomfort might help dispel that disbelief.

I apologise if I made you feel I was having a go at you - that was not my intention.

That's perfectly okay SDTG. Thanks. I probably should be quicker to apologise to people too.

Watching the football tonight? I've noticed your Cross of St George.

They might do it.

You never know. Every flag I've picked has lost so far.

I assumed Why meant she had a disability one of the features of which is a physical reaction to bad SPaG.

I have Auditory Processing Disorder, one of the features ofwhich is that I struggle to understand homophone errors. So they really jar.

I am not cuntish enough to pull other posters up on them though. The nearest I've got on MN was on a thread about giving your children "free reign" over the fruit bowl, where in my comment I wrote something like "yes, my DC have free rein over the fruit bowl unless it's nearly tea time".

Nae fucker noticed anyway.

I shan't be watching the football, but I am sure ds3 will keep us updated. I do hope they do it - Phil Neville reckons they will win 2-1.

I'd have noticed, Fatal.

Ah but SDTG is that because you know the answer?

I felt awfully cuntish after I'd pressed "Post" but fifty posts of "free reign" had me twitchy. And afterwards there were another dozen before I hid the thread.

To explain the pedantry, for some of us it's all so obvious and easy that mistakes feel deliberate. Rationally we know they aren't, of course. And for those who think it matters, we assume other people want to know if they've learned it wrong which actually does tend to hold true for non-native speakers.

But a little kindness costs nothing. Pedantry should stay in Pedants' Corner and not leak out into AIBU or Cunning Linguists.

And anyone failing to excuse DYAC deserves no courtesy.

Ah but SDTG is that because you know the answer?

I felt awfully cuntish after I'd pressed "Post" but fifty posts of "free reign" had me twitchy. And afterwards there were another dozen before I hid the thread.

To explain the pedantry, for some of us it's all so obvious and easy that mistakes feel deliberate. Rationally we know they aren't, of course. And for those who think it matters, we assume other people want to know if they've learned it wrong which actually does tend to hold true for non-native speakers.

But a little kindness costs nothing. Pedantry should stay in Pedants' Corner and not leak out into AIBU or Cunning Linguists.

And anyone failing to excuse DYAC deserves no courtesy.

"...But a little kindness costs nothing. Pedantry should stay in Pedants' Corner and not leak out into AIBU or Cunning Linguists."

A perfect summary, Fatal. And yes, I would have noticed because I know the answer. Like you, I will use the right spelling/word/grammar in my own posts, but wouldn't correct someone unless they ask for it.