in not seeing the reason for needing Doctors name and phone number on children's trip forms

[seventyfive]

Its just a little thing, but why do schools/children's clubs ask for the name of a child's doctor on medical forms for (day) trips?
I seem to fill this info out all the time but wonder what circumstance would lead them to use that info?

An accident requiring A&E would, one would assume.

If you needed to know the child's blood type or immunisations quickly ?

When you go to a&e they need your dr's details. Probably to access medical records if needs and update your GP of any treatment required. So if a child has an accident needing an a&e trip they will require this information.

So they can find out their medical details in an emergency.

so that in the event of any emergency treatment, they can very quickly access the childs full medical history details when they last had any medication/injections, any allergic reactions etc etc

The NHS number (which is also required) is more useful then, than phoning the surgery?

Presumably because if the child required emergency admission to hospital, the GP's contact details will be the only way for hospital staff to get a medical, drug and allergy history if the parents aren't there.

Hmm well in ooh we always confirm dr details and automatically let dr know what happened. We have an emergency care summary from the GP available we we access and confirming GP details is another way if enduring we gave the right medical details.

At A&E they will also ask fur GP details - am not a medic though do don't know if clinicians may contact GP by phone sometimes

NHS number won't help. Medical notes are held as hard copies, not electronic.

Most people wouldn't have even had their blood type checked. It's not a routine test. And they certainly wouldn't phone a GP for it, if you have an accident they would check it again or give you the universal blood if you needed a transfusion.

I can't see the point of naming a doctor, I have no idea who mine is. Unless it's to send letters to, or to inform the a&be dept.

A&E that was meant to say. We always send a discharge letter to the GP when a child goes home.

Naming a specific doctor probably unnecessary. Naming the surgery and providing a phone number would be more helpful.

It's where the records get send from the A&E treatment so they do end up "on file", they won't actually contact the doctor...

There is not even a way to contact my Dr's from Sat midday till monday morning. Also we are not allocated any particular Dr at the surgery.

When I go to A&E I always get asked my GP's name. So presumably if a child is taken to A&E the teacher would need to supply the GP name.

It does seem to be required information on more and more school trip forms recently, even though the schools already have all of the information on their own records.

I have given this on several forms recently, whereas I am sure only a year ago it wasn't always asked for.

I suppose it is just so that everyone has covered their arse in case anything untoward happens during said trip.

Just put the practice name and number.
You sound riled by it?

We do have electronic records in Scotland for emergency care - this is a list of any regular meds or allergies. These are also passed to 999 if ambulance called.

There is not even a way to contact my Dr's from Sat midday till monday morning. Also we are not allocated any particular Dr at the surgery

That's irrelevant though, like a few of us have said they just need the name when you triage in A&E

Ooh or A&E will want to inform GP of any problems - so surgety details and these are usually listed via GP name do it doesn't matter which one you normally see

I think it's pretty good - it means care is joined up, GP kept is informed.

Helpys - I have several children so seem to be writing this info down all the time!! I always imagine a teacher / whoever on hold to the surgery for half an hour then being told they are busy for the next 3 weeks. I often think - I hope they would just go to A&E!

We've had to supply NHS number in addition to GP contact details, for club outings.

I always imagine a teacher / whoever on hold to the surgery for half an hour then being told they are busy for the next 3 weeks. I often think - I hope they would just go to A&E!

I would think it would depend on how serious the illness/injury is surely.

I doubt they contact the GP at the time of an accident - never ever heard of that happening. I think posters imagining that a hospital has a hotline to GP surgeries to draw down allergy/blood type information are a bit deluded!

It will just be for the A&E admin, so that an automatic letter is triggered to go to the GP surgery afterwards. I think that's the extent of any joined-up-ness.