To think Park View Academy, must be doing something right ( looking at their statistics)

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I have just looked at the Park View Academy's statistics and have been amazed. I expected to see appalling statistics, yet the statistics are fantastic!

92.5% of pupils English as a second language 59.8% of pupils on FSM yet achieves 75% 5 A*-C Maths and English.

There might be a problem with some religious zealots there, but clearly the school is achieving fantastic results. The school is giving its pupils an education far beyond, what the raw statistics say it should be doing.

The problems should have been dealt with in an efficient and quiet way, it should not have come to the media attention. The school deserves to be looked on as beacon of excellence for its outstanding results.

As a Muslim parent, I think it is outrageous to assume Muslim children need to be singled out

Since Prevent is used as an utterly benign tool in huge numbers of schools, I'd be interested to know why you regard this as Muslims being "singled out"??

Just occasionally it would be nice to see Muslims themselves challenging extremist behaviour, rather than crying victim and even sometimes actively preventing progress, as we've seen in the appalling parents' demonstrations at Al Hijrah School

What those statistics don't tell you is the percentage of children that flipping well SHOULD be getting A*-C! This is why the ratings are changing to added value.

How can it be fair that a school looks glowing because it gets 75% A-C BUT the data shows that actually that particular year group SHOULD have achieved 85% A-C.

Another school could be derided for 'only' getting 60% when actually the data might show that they should be getting 45%.

Statistic, lies and damn and all that.

Did anyone read this article? It is truly shocking about the agenda that is being pursued by a group of Muslim school governors and muslim senior staff in these schools and the underhand and organised way they are going about it. They have links to extremists- explained in the article.

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationopinion/10700041/Muslim-extremists-and-a-worrying-lesson-for-us-all.html

Puzzled - It would be even nicer for Muslims not to be treated as a homogenous mass, as if we are collectively responsible for anything any Muslim does, ever.

The other issue is what exactly is meant by extremism.

To some people not having raffles or nativities is extreme. You could ask 100 different people and get 100 different answers.

Really - issues around recruitment, staff management etc are HR issues, not religious ones, but that's not the way things are being painted.

so its about governors?

Yes I think Muslims ought to challenge each other on these issues and openly oppose the extremist viewpoint, rather than just respond defensively as a mass.

wel, thats what I said.
I know what Governors do - I was one for EIGHT LONG YEARS ;)

Some shocking views on this thread.

Blaming innocent Muslims for not challenging extremism?

Like you'd all happily go up against dangerous extremism.

And if they are defensive then they are right to be given the shite that is spouted about them everywhere these days.

I think moderate Muslims should..do what the hell they want like anyone else.

As for the OP I am not sure about this.

It could well be that financial or other issues were behind the school's problems and certain factions of the media have twisted it to whip up an anti Islamic frenzy.

Like the Subway halal nonsense.

It would be interesting to know the religion of the person who wrote the "Trojan Horse" hoax letter.

Governors are very powerful people and if they get things wrong they can wreck any school. (There are plenty of duff muslim governors.) I feel that part of the problem is that all governors are volunteers. The fact that governors are unpaid means that schools will accept almost anyone as governor as they are desperate.

We need a mixture of professional and volunteer govenors. Governors need to be vetted as its better to have to few govenors than have a bad govenor. We also need complusory training for govenors.

"And if they are defensive then they are right to be given the shite that is spouted about them everywhere these days."

Oh give over Fanjo - making out they are victims! Why don't moderate Muslims challenge the extremist governors in the Birmingham schools who have basically fucked things up for them. Is it fear or what? There needs to be some discussion, and the sooner the better because the kids are the ones who have been let down.

Oh dear, oh dear Fanjo ... it was a good try, but unfortunately off the mark; as long as Muslims claim collective credit for the many good things within their community, it's surely only reasonable to expect some objection to the bad?

On the one hand we're told this is about a few raffles and HR issues, but then you mention "dangerous extremists" - so which is it?

Its extremely prejudiced to refer to and criticise "Muslims" as one collective mind.

My argument ends there.

... and why has nobody addressed the issue of the many parents at Al Hijrah who have ^actively campaigned against* the appointment of a new governing body to clear up the dreadful mess??

"Its extremely prejudiced to refer to and criticise "Muslims" as one collective mind."

That doesn't work either. Cop out.

It certainly does work.

And indeed I stand by it
Someone has to challenge those sorts of posts.

The current Trojan horse affair reminded me of what Ray Honeyford observed in his Braford school in the 80s and his prediction of its consequences

Puzzled I mentioned dangerous extremists in response to your "why don't muslims" challenge extremism" nonsense. And you know it.

I am seriously appalled at the tone of both of your posts.

why didn't Catholics stop children being abused? ...maybe because they are not one homogenous mass with a shared consciousness and therefore not aware of everything every other Catholic may or may not be doing at any given moment

they are muslims not Borg