To think that people should not let their children stand in supermarket trolleys

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...with their grubby little shoes that have potentially tramped through dog shit and who knows what else. People put their food in there!

Pregnancy hormones making me very grrr today so everything is more irritating than normal, but still. It pisses me off that I'm denying myself all sorts of foods I like to avoid the slim possibility of complications (I've lost two pregnancies already this year so being super paranoid and doing everything by the book this time), but I don't know what contaminants are being introduced to my food trolley by people who can't say no to their kids. It's not difficult to explain that we don't put shoes in places where food goes. Bet they wouldn't let their kids walk around in their shoes on their kitchen benches.

Grrrrr!

...and breathe!

Nobody wants dog shit in trolleys I agree, but banning children from trolleys doesn't change the fact that they sit outside exposed to rain, birdshit etc. Trolleys are dirty. I find it easier to assume that and not put any unpackaged food straight onto the bars.

I don't really care to be honest.

Congratulations on your pregnancy. I can understand why you might be concerned given your history, but I don't know why you're denying yourself all sorts of foods, due to a child possibly having stood in the trolley?

Surely any food you put in there will be wrapped or in a bag?

It is also dangerous.

If the children are too large to sit in the foldyseat at the front of the trolley then they should walk.

Thing on TV last week about the cleanliness of trolley handles and that most of them have poo (faeceal matter, can't bloody spell it) on them. So I'd be more concerned with wiping the handles with anti bac rather than shitty kids shoes in the actual trolley.

In the 14 years of being a mum I have never encountered any sort of shit in a trolley.

Not denying myself food because it's touched the trolley worra, I meant I'm not eating anything on the banned list, but it seems a bit futile when someone passes me with a kid with obviously muddy shoes in their trolley.

Yes I realise that the trolleys probably have all sorts of other mank on them (hadn't even occured to me about the bird shit though - bleurgh), but does that make it ok to not bother teaching your kids that shoes don't go where food does?

You don't have to be able to see the shit for it to be there Madame as the study about the trolley handles clearly proves

Guess I'm also a bit grrr about the fact that 2 yr old DS didn't question my explanation of why he couldn't stand in the trolley and stopped asking to, but now looks confused when he sees other kids being allowed to

YANBU - we shouldn't ....but we do coz kids love it and it's fun. Obviously though back in the day when my DS did this I wouldn't have let him stand on there with dirty shitty shoes on.

I imagine the handles of the trolleys are far worse than the insides to be honest.

Couldn't give two hoots about the dirt, trolleys are filthy. Quick wipe of handles and no unpackaged food directly onto the trolley. I don't think children should stand in them, have seen too many kids in ED after trolleys have tipped over

Sorry but its fun and I agree the handles of trollies are where the germs are....

a wrapped piece of food is not going to be affected by a child wearing shoes in a trolly. Your hand touching a bar where children have driblled. men touching their cocks then not washing their hands, people sneezing picking noses....

if I had to lick the bar or the bottom of the cage, i know which one id go for.

its also the only way I can shop with my children.

Haha.

Congratulations on your pregnancy. But you will look back on this and laugh when your baby is 3 and you need to get round the shops faster than snail pace.

Or if shock horror you have two dc close in age and only one seat on the front!

Lots of food grows in mud you know. Other food is dead animals! Just wash it.

anyway op your on a loosing battle kids all over the world ride in trollies so i would just get over this one.

Lots of food grows in mud you know

Not just mud.....shit actually, manure from all sorts of animals and in China, its human....

I'd rather some of the badly behaved kids in our local supermarket were contained, rather than running riot grabbing at things (I want to know a French stick I pick up hasn't previously been used as a lightsaber by some grubby kid who hasn't washed his hands since picking his nose/bum!).

At least with a trolley I don't expect it to be clean so wouldn't eat unpackaged food in direct contact with the trolley.

Congratulations on your pregnancy OP. Will this be your first baby? I would have thought the same as you before i had children, but now I have 3; a 4yr old, a 2.5 year old and a 6 month old, and sometimes we need to go to the supermarket together. So with the two smaller ones in the trolley seats, and 4 year old walking i can manage, but sometimes, on bad days, when everyone is tired from no sleep and 5 am starts, and bickering all day, and the 4 year old keeps running away and touching things, then yes, i do let him stand in the trolley.

When i was heavily pregnant with DC3 the two lads were of an age to be fighting, climbing, running; it was like they both had the terrible twos at the same time. I tried them in the trolley seats side by side but they fought, physically, and tried to climb out or stand up. it was unbearable. So then i tried to let them walk, and they ran away. Running after two naughty boys when you are 8 months pregnant, and exhausted from minding them, being up at night, very early mornings, and no naps ever brought me close to tears, as did the judgy looks of other shoppers as i tried to control my two very spirited boys, picking them up physically, poor bump.

So then I put one in the trolley seat and the other standing at the front of the trolley, and we got on ok, until someone meanly told me off for doing it, and so i cried hormonally, left all my shopping and took my boys home.

So maybe would it be ok in some circumstances to allow a child to stand in the trolley? Or could supermarkets design some new trolleys with a front and back seat, or a buggy board or something, please?

Total germ phobe here, I carry sanitiser wipes for trolley handles and put a large foldaway box in the bottom from The Camouflage Company. I agree kids should not be standing in trolleys.

oh, sorry I see you do have another child, so probably do get where i am coming from, but are just better at parenting than me! nb, that is not meant to sound passive aggressive, just factual!

I think you're being a bit over-sensitive about trolleys and germs, but I do agree with the principle of teaching kids that there are places where you don't put shod feet. People who let your children stand on restaurant benches/tube seats/bus seats, yes, I mean you.

If the children are too large to sit in the foldyseat at the front of the trolley then they should walk.

I know of several people who have disabled children who struggle with mobility - either for behavioural or physical reasons, who put their children in the main body of the trolley as they are too large for the seat. Most supermarkets I have been to don't have any trolleys designed for disabled children, or only have one (usually damaged!)

There is a petition campaigning for more sn trolleys here, if anyone is interested in signing.

ducky I'm already laughing at myself. I know this pregancy is turning me into a neurotic mess, just can't help myself. Two points though: mud, yes, but generally dogs are not allowed to run around where vegetables grow, kids and dogs often play in the same places. Also we're a family of vegetarians, no dead animals here!

Oh and I'm a stubborn little bitch, I've told DS he can't stand in trolleys now, I can't now back down on that one even if it makes life very difficult for me in future!

Fair enough though, I knew I was being unreasonable and a bit mental even as I was typing the OP. Damn hormones

makes mental note not to buy food from China

I don't like to see it because I worry that they could get hurt. Trolley tips over, kid smacks their face on the floor, loses teeth.

as to contamination - with the massive over packaging we have? Very unlikely. And just as likely that others have handled stuff and put germs on it. Even the shelf stackers. The factory workers. Everything you buy will have been handled by very very many people to the point where a shoe in a trolley really cannot add anything more!

someone goes to loo, does not wash their hands, goes to supermarket, picks nose in car, handles trolley, which is coated in a hundred people's unwashed hand germs and transfers all that, plus bird poo, etc etc, goes into fresh fruit section, picks up apples, examines them, puts them down again...

What you do with it all when you get it home is more important. Washing fruit and veg, storing things correctly and so on.

Ha ha ha ha ha!!

Do you think these trolleys are:

A) regularly steam cleaned and sanitised? or
B) Never ever cleaned in their entire life?

While you might think children in trolleys are stamping dog poo everywhere, it's just because you can SEE them and focus all your germ angst onto them.

In reality, trolleys should probably be treated as suspect from a hygiene POV. Use bags for your fruit and veg etc.

OP, perhaps you should "watch" this thread and come back in a few years time to see if your opinion may have changed.

YABVU!
I'll assume its pregnancy hormones. Congratulations and hope it all goes smoothly.

I hate it. Not so much from the mucky shoes point of view but the tottering toddlers and possible injuries.

Trolleys are filthy bird poo germs from hands or groceries that all and sundry, a little kids shoes is the least of your worries, least the shopper knows where there kid is in thettrolley and bet it cuts the trip in half time wise

Congratulations on your pregnancy op.

As for the kids in Trolleys, I would much rather have my ds sat where I can see him and not zooming round the shop and being a danger to other shoppers.