to think the 'common law/freeman on the land' thing is a whole load of bollocks?

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I've come across a few people over the last few years that take it very seriously and bang on at length about how the police and courts have no authority over them as they are self declared 'freemen'. Something to do with common law being the only true law in Britain, I think? And not having to wear bike helmets or pay for TV licenses or repay your debts also seem important to the ones I've had the dubious pleasure of meeting.

A couple I met at the weekend have taken the biscuit though and not registered their baby's birth because apparently this will mean said baby grows up to be a 'freeman' (she's actually a girl but the term appears to be freeman anyway). They believe quite firmly that to register her birth will mean that the law assumes her and her name (which is a fucking corker, of course) are one and the same and that only by NOT registering her birth can she be free to be a human being. Quite what this actually means is a mystery to me and tbh the mumbo jumbo they gave me by way of an answer leads me to suspect they don't really know either

I've tried to read up on it but all the info I can find is written in a style you'd expect of an paranoid, delusional, and possibly hallucinating chimpanzee let loose with a legal dictionary.

So AIBU to think this is bollocky woo of the most fucking ridiculous type? Or is someone going to come along and actually enlighten me as to wtf its all about, preferably in plain English with no pseudo-legalese?

Found what promises to be a richly rewarding forum. One plaintive chap asks:

From what I can gather (I'm new to this) courts operate under maritime law or contract law. Flesh and blood humans are supposed to operate under common law, which is not to harm anyone or property and not to enter into fraudulent contracts. (ish)
Do we knowingly give up our common law rights when we go to court or are we tricked into it. At what point do we lose common law?
Any help please.....?

Dammit, its not going to be as rewarding as I hoped. He is slapped down immediately with the response.

Your question makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The main sources of law under which the Courts operate in this jursidiction are: 1) the Constitution which takes precedence over all other laws (except EU); 2) Legislation; 3) EU laws; 4) Common Law i.e. Judge made law.

Oh I love all this freeman shite. Had someone on one of the Facebook groups I belong to going on about it. Was most amusing :)

I would love to see what they make of the feudal type of laws still found in the Channel Island. Clamour de Harrow (sp) anyone?!

Clameur de haro apparently

My Channel Islands patois isn't up to that! Is it anything like Droit de Seigneur?

Lol not quite although some young lads did operate as if it existed!

(Not that it got them anywhere other than a complete drubbing from most of the island plus a nickname that would stick for the rest of their lives..... Small island justice )

marking place to re read : absolutely fascinating

gosh, its a bit more complicated than i originally thought.

The Commercial Courts work on the Maritime Admiralty system which is known today as Oleron Law, or the Law of the High Sea. This Sea is seen as the Sea of Souls and in the occult World this represents the power of the Moon Goddess Isis who controls the tides and why all ships are feminine named. The Oleron Law is based on VATICAN Canon Law which in these Courts can trump all other laws including Maritime if the Judge is defeated twice already. The Judge will go out of court yet again so as not to bring dishonor before trying once again to attempt to get jurisdiction on you. What you're not aware of is how he's now classed as a High Priest of Baal the God of Jupiter worshiped by the Roman Empire and its continuum today the Catholic Church. We're English people and from a true-Christian Country (not pagan-Catholics disguised as Christians in order to infiltrate, take over and destroy as you're seeing in the Church of England today gradually). We were and still are a Protestant Country and we shall soon once again find our roots and remember who gave us these freedoms we can have again and speak of right now. Long live Oliver Cromwell the greatest being of our land for 400+ years and King John of England who introduced the Magna Carta.. We must get back to following God and only the true Bible, the King James AV1611 which our enemies detest and try to undermine by the day with false bibles, hatred and disinformation to brainwash an ever increasingly dumbed down and easily led populace. Time to stand up and take our Nation of Land back. Its time to pull the plug on this treasonous fraud of water, out to Sea it shall go!

Eh? Catholics are bad but King John was good? King John didn't 'introduce' the Magna Carta, wasn't he forced to sign it?

I wish I hadn't started this now but LotR isn't quite as gripping the 99th time.

Blimey Spero! That's hilarious

And yes he was forced

I'm unsurprised by the tenuous grip on history displayed in that post. Baal was Babylonian (or Pheonician) for starters. And there were many bibles prior to the King James, including some parts in Old English.

DH (law student) has just read that post. His face was like this

I found it under a brilliant Youtube video where a freeman is claiming 'victory' over a judge and court, but his 'victory' looks suspiciously like he is being bundled away by quite a lot of police men.

But given that he thinks the Judge is a high priest of Baaaal or whatever, no doubt 'falling down the stairs' at the police station = stunning victory over maritime law.

Good old rational wiki
Freemen see a distinction between (what they call) common law and statute law, which they refer to as "admiralty law," "law of the sea," "maritime law," or the "universal commercial code" (a distortion of the US-only Uniform Commercial Code) — something that only applies to corporations, e.g. legal persons, not flesh-and-blood humans.[26] They see admiralty law as being the law of commerce, the law of ownership, citizenship, and indeed anything else ending in "-ship." They see evidence of this in various nautical-sounding terms used in court, such as "dock," "birth [berth] certificate," "-ship" suffixes and any other fancy word they think might have a vaguely naval sound.[38] Freemen will take this further by referring to the court as a "ship", its occupants as "passengers" and claiming that anyone leaving are "men overboard." This gives their legal arguments a hilarious nautical theme.[26]
They see courts as being a place of business intended to make profit for the government corporation. They sometimes refer to these courts as "de facto courts." When they receive a summons to appear in court, they insist that this is not a summons but, in fact, an invitation to a place of business to discuss the matter at hand.[30][26] When one initially enters a court they are then operating under "admiralty law" rather than (their version of) "common law". American freemen will sometimes try to argue that if the flag in the court has a gold fringe, this signifies that it is an admiralty court. British courts tend not to have flags of any type, so this claim has largely failed to cross the Atlantic.

If anyone missed the rational wiki link that was posted on this thread some months ago now, do have a look at the notable Freeman successes they document. You will find it very illuminating.
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land

Thing is, its really trick for the Freemen because they are having their minds controlled by HAARP and their water poisoned by Chemtrails
(happy reading folks)

Freeman are fun. I want more Freeman posts, and we should televise all Freeman court cases so we don't miss them

The poster on the Facebook group I was on was going on about how she hadn't registered the births of her 3 children for their own good, and also incidentally how squatting is morally good and better than owning property. And what amazed me was the number of people backing her up and saying that yes squatting is good and does no harm, and were asking how they could go off grid more and deregister their children.
Bonkers.

I would SO watch 'Freeman Court'.

Any TV people reading? Lets pitch!

I really want to experience their hilarious nautical themes.

Wildly generalising here of course, but it's the same type of person who tends to think vaccination does more harm than not vaccinating and it's all just profit for "big pharma", thinks SS are out to steal their children because healthy well treated kids are easier to adopt, thinks schools are brainwashing factories for the masses, and who also can't spell or use grammar.

Wild over generalisation of course.

I am quite torn by this video.

On the one hand, tasering someone just for being an arse does seem a bit brutal.

But on the other hand it is quite satisfying.