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Noisy holiday neighbours at night vs my noisy early riser children

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balloondoggy · 29/05/2014 19:53

My children are 6, 8 and 10. They go to bed at around 7.30ish most school nights or 8-8.30 on weekends and holidays. However, this holiday they have been so active with hours of swimming that they are in bed at 7. They are shattered.

However, they are naturally early risers. They are up any time from 6am.

Our villa circles the pool with 7 other villas. These other holiday guests are all adults and up late drinking etc. about 11pm. They are loud, but I've not complained.

The hotel has complained that our children are too loud walking to the restaurant in the morning for breakfast, which starts at 8am.

I'm really pissed off. It's okay to be loud and disturb a family's sleep at night. But not wake a bunch of 30 something's at 8 when breakfast is served.

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specialsubject · 29/05/2014 19:59

11pm is not late on holiday, although it should be quiet after that.

8am on holiday IS a bit early to be yelling.

sounds like everyone needs a bit of consideration. How about declaring quiet time from 10 to 10?

mommy2ash · 29/05/2014 20:00

how loud exactly are your children? to be honest early in the morning i would be asking them to be quiet walking to breakfast. not don't say a word quiet but i can only imagine them having to be extremely loud in order to wake people up and have complaints.

i would expect adults to be up drinking at eleven at night on a holiday.

kali110 · 29/05/2014 20:02

Think 11 is early on holiday. For people to complain your kids maybe being noiser than you think

Yama · 29/05/2014 20:02

YANBU. However, 10 years ago I would have said YABU.

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balloondoggy · 29/05/2014 20:07

They aren't shouting but are talking. We aren't doing much other than walking to the hotel restaurant. My children aren't allowed outside the villa till 8am when we walk the 2 minutes to the hotel. Although you have to walk quite close to the other villas because the path around the pool is only 6 foot wide. Apparently this is the time the other guests are woken. I think 8am is reasonable to walk past. If it is so early, why do the hotel open for breakfast then?

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Tommy · 29/05/2014 20:11

this is the price you pay for not being able to afford a private holiday island!!
I think it is not unreasonable to ask your children to not talk while they are walking past other people's villas at 8 a.m.

LaurieFairyCake · 29/05/2014 20:12

8 is not early, talking is normal.

They're arses.

TalisaMaegyr · 29/05/2014 20:15

Can you not just ask them to not speak until they get to the restaurant?

Gooseysgirl · 29/05/2014 20:15

YANBU... they would not be happy if my 6 month old DS was next door to them - he squawks loud happy noises from 5.30am. If they book somewhere knowing children will possibly be staying they need to get over themselves... 8am is a massive lie in for us

LtEveDallas · 29/05/2014 20:17

Christ, they hate us then. DD and I are usually in the pool by 630am - doing lengths though rather than playing..

But we don't go to bed till 11 ourselves, I do think you are being a little precious complaining about noise at 11pm on holiday.

I think talking at 8am is fine. But maybe you could ask the kids to whisper instead

riverboat1 · 29/05/2014 20:29

I think the two things balance each other out.

It's perfectly reasonable for people to be outside chatting and drinking into the late hours of the evening - they're on holiday!

But also perfectly reasonable that your children be up and about and chatting/playing at 8am.

Might be different if we were talking about adults partying and playing loud music until 3am, and/or children screeching and thumping around at 6am. But what you describe seems normal holiday behaviour at both ends for me.

eddielizzard · 29/05/2014 20:31

i don't think either of you are bu. i would ask the kids to be quiet though.

annebullin · 29/05/2014 20:34

If the restaurant is open for breakfast at 8 then it seems very unreasonable to expect your dc to walk around silently.

arethereanyleftatall · 29/05/2014 20:37

I think neither side abu. 11pm isn't very late for holidaying adults. but neither is 8am that early for children. But, for the sake of harmony, could they not manage 2 minutes of silence?

CoffeeTea103 · 29/05/2014 20:37

11 on holiday is early! Can you not ask them to be quiet till they get to the restaurant.

arethereanyleftatall · 29/05/2014 20:38

Otherwise you run the risk of them staying up later making noise.

Yamyoid · 29/05/2014 20:39

I'm also of the view that 11pm and 8am are both respectable times and neither parties can complain.

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balloondoggy · 29/05/2014 20:41

I haven't complained about the drinking and chatting. I would it it went past midnight but it doesn't. I get it that adults on holiday will socialise till late, so would I if I weren't up early!

To be frank it isn't just my children, it is all 6 of us (inc my elderly mum). The normal conversations of 'who has the key' 'where is your coat' etc. We don't whisper but I don't shout either.

We come here every year for a week in the holidays, have done for 5 years. It has really pissed me off.

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annebullin · 29/05/2014 20:41

Can you ask the hotel to move you?
I don't think I'd want to be near such miserable people.

TheFairyCaravan · 29/05/2014 20:43

11pm is not late on holiday.

If I had to walk that close to villas with adults in I would ask my children to talk quietly until they get to the restaurant.

annebullin · 29/05/2014 20:47

What time does breakfast end at?
Surely they will have to be up for breakfast themselves anyway.

We usually stay up late on holiday, but I would expect to hear families with younger children out and about in the morning.

lightningstrikes · 29/05/2014 21:10

I would be annoyed as well. What you describe isn't being too loud, it is being in too close proximity to neighbours in villas that apparently have poor sound insulation. I'd just carry on being normal and ignore. 8 am isn't too early just as 11 pm isn't too late. Meh.

Jbck · 29/05/2014 21:27

If the restaurant is open they have to expect people to be walking and talking on the route to it past the villas.

I would hope my DDs would still be asleep but if they weren't they're on holiday they'd be excited and chatty.

Enjoyingmycoffee1981 · 29/05/2014 21:33

Neither of you are being unreasonable.

If their late night noise is bothering you (11pm really isn't bad though. Any later is a different story though), then ask them politely to lower the noise or make a complaint.

However, they are bothered by the noise of your children in the morning. They wouldn't have complained otherwise. So you can either effectively put a middle finger up to them and not say anything to your children, or you can ask your children (who are certainly old enough) to speak very quietly on the short walk to the hotel. It's the courteous, civilised, nice thing to do. Be an adult about it, and ask your children to speak quietly because they are bothering people.

whois · 29/05/2014 22:26

A lot of campsites have 'quiet time' 11 till 8 so I think it's reasonably fair game outside that. Which both parties are doing. Adults need to suck up the children's chatter at 8am.

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