My Dad stood as a UKIP candidate...

[curiousgeorgie]

He is Not a nice person.

We've been estranged for years, he was absolutely terrible to my mum in front of us, and continued to be violent to my older brother when we were made to visit him when my parents divorced.

Last year he decided that since I had 2 children he didn't know, he would take me to court for access to them. It cost us several thousand pounds but (obviously) he didn't win.

He's spread lies, reported us to social services for unfounded things, been threatening and repeatedly violent. Not just me, but also my mum, stepfather & siblings.

One of my friends sent me a link last night that he stood as a UKIP candidate for his area, I'm shocked that someone with such a history of violence and domestic abuse, absolutely no good character and no standing in the community could just stand??

I'm shocked to think that any party would accept him, given his criminal records and history?! Do they not vet these people?

I'm nervous to google and see if he actually won!

There was an entire op to read too you know with the violent abusive father bit in it?

But why should that get in the way of a good political rant?

Sorry, I genuinely don't understand what you mean honeydragon.

Not sure that I am getting the gist of this thread correctly.
fwiw, I have seen the op's name about so think that she is genuine.

If I remember correctly, it is a bit proportional representation. And each party put up 5 members for each area.
So unless you dad was no 1 on the list, or possibly no 2, he is unlikely to have got in.

fwiw, I am a little pro UKIP right now, but there is no way I would want a candidate like op describes to have political power.

The first question the UKIP councillor who got elected in Thetford last year asked was "will it affect my benefits?". Then it transpired that he'd been arrested for shoplifting in Poundland, and he quit.

The vetting thing is interesting - I don't know how much vetting any party is able to do other than via Google.

curiousgeorgie - I can see why this has thrown you, but please don't let it stop you moving on from your shit childhood.

Took you to court for grandparent access?

I'm not berating people talking about UKIP (which Sarinka knows, as I know she's not dim).

There are plenty of threads to discuss whether UKIP are amazeballs are not, the op makes it clear she's shocked and political party have allowed him to stand. It just happens to have been UKIP that was the party.

Because it was UKIP, it was in the title. And resulted in a couple of posters arriving on the thread as they have every other UKIP/EU election one.

They had zero intention of reading the op or providing pertinent information.

It annoys me, because if these peope are behaving like this now than the next GE on here will be fucking awful. The last one was bad enough with politicitrolls signing up to tell us mummies how to vote.

At this rate someone will post to talk about their refluxy baby and will only be granted help it they confirm their political standing first.

I think being a vile, selfish bullying tosspot would be mandatory for a UKIP candidate. Mind you UKIP would probably describe the op's dad as 'eccentric' or 'refreshingly un-PC.'

You do realise there are lots of mps with criminal records? and lots of councillors etc? not just UKIP people.
Sorry, but I can't see how any party can vet how nice someone is to their family!
Can I ask what his criminal records were for?

So true ComposHat, also "not afraid to speak his mind" or "saying what everyone else is thinking"!

Ok, I think I see what you mean honeydragon, that some posters are "making this about ukip" when it could be any political party? I sort of understand what you mean but as ComposHat says ukip have surpassed many other political parties with the unpleasant, offensive things that their candidates have said in the past few months so I'm not at all surprised that this struck a chord.

Also people are getting changed by the abbreviation NC which is in the ops case was referring to non contact, not name change.

*changed?

Confused.

"saying what everyone else is thinking"!

I grind my teeth when someone trots out that line. I feel like screaming 'not everyone thinks the same way as you dipshit don't assume I share your idiotic and base prejudices.' Believe it or not I don't go around getting distressed when I hear someone talk Polish on the bus or foam at the mouth at the idea of equal marriage.

Mind you I would love it if Nigel did actually 'say what I was thinking' on an episode of question time:

Did the cat just fart?
My ear is itchy
I must remember to buy some more carrots.
I wonder what Bonnie Langford is doing these days
Can fish burp?
Buy an anniversary card.

Oh dear . Nothing would surprise me about UKIP, but I did think that you couldn't stand if you had a criminal record (this is just an optimisitic assumption about the working of democracy in this country, and isn't based on anything more than that).

TBH, I'd stay out of it. I wouldn't want to be on UKIP's radar. Nor would I want to do anything that would anything that would put me back on my father's radar. You are NC, he sounds thoroughly unpleasant. Just leave him and his new odious friends to get on with it.

That's more like it ComposHat! I feel like screaming "it's not what I'm bloody thinking....don't tar me with your sticky brush you bigot"!

"cardomon" you are only prevented from standing if you've been sentenced to 12 months or more. Any less than that and you can!

Compo...dude.

Always think anniversary card BEFORE cat fart. ALWAYS. Yes the fart is more invasive to the frontal lobes, but absence of card can cause more strife.

adsy - really! Oh well!

I think the rules about standing apply to uncleared convictions - so, for example they've served 2 years of a 4 year sentence, but aren't out of the parole period, yet. I think quietly tipping off political opponents would provide the greatest opportunity for him to be hauled over the coals without you becoming too embroiled, though, OP.

I'm sure all those people excited by the change that having so many UKIP MEPs will bring are really looking forward to the benefits of their representative not bothering to turn up or vote in the European parliament, on their behalf.

My goodness, the fuckwits are out in force on this thread.

Sorry to hear about this OP. I think rather than waiting for them to reply to the e-mail you maybe need to find another way to bring this to UKIP's attention. I don't think even Farage wants people like your dad in his party.

I was going to suggest getting UKIP removed from the title to get more balanced responses but actually don't because people are really showing themselves up for what they are. It makes me feel better as it reinforces that I am absolutely right about the type of people who vote for UKIP.

I could have written this post! I'm the secret love child of my revolting father, who is a liar and a fantasist. He is so bad that he was expelled from ukip (he was in a senior position in Scotland).

My dad commits casual crimes, like saying his foreign son was the one speeding in the car so he doesn't get points. He also helps with his son's illegal business in a foreign country.

I am also estranged and thankful, so thankful, that I don't share his name.

I think there are more "eccentrics" in politics than we may care to think about.

In the early 90s I used to work in a pub, where a once a week regular was a Conservative MP. This was in the time of the Major government, so before the Good Friday agreement. The bile this man used to spew forth about the irish (not the IRA, but the Irish in general) was breathtaking.

This is marvellous...

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/26/ukip-founder-alan-sked-party-become-frankensteins-monster

I also wanted to say, Georgie, that you're not alone.

Dad didn't stand this time as he's got stuff on. He will next year. I know him. I know the sort of man he is, and while UKIP wouldn't care (they'd embrace him with open arms) I know the sort of man he is and the sort of things he'd vote for. The vetting procedure is minimal to non-existent.

This is what bothers me when people say 'it's just a candidates view! It's not the manifesto!'

Of course the manifesto will never have 'We need to restrict the movements of gay people!' or 'We need to make it harder for women to 'cry rape'!'

But the candidates that people are voting for - the people who will sit in the houses of parliament and raise their hands on subjects that matter to people, these are the things that they think.

They have media savvy people helping them at ever turn, and still can't manage to keep in 'Romanians are all criminals' or 'Abnormal foetuses should be aborted'. This is how they think while thinking about people.

The Eurosceptic side of things I don't have a massive issue with. Lots of people are Eurosceptic and that's a point that needs addressing. We should have a referendum because we're a democracy and that's what democracies do. My problem is that I know a number of UKIP people, and scratch beneath the semi-polished veneer and you've got some very troubling thoughts about lots of things that are nothing to do with Europe at all.

Hmmmm, I hate UKIP, but I can't help feeling that this thread would have gone a slightly different way had the Ops father stood for Labour.

Yes. We'd be focussing on how vulnerable the op feels about her git of a father standing as a political candidate.