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My Dad stood as a UKIP candidate...

84 replies

curiousgeorgie · 25/05/2014 23:11

He is Not a nice person.

We've been estranged for years, he was absolutely terrible to my mum in front of us, and continued to be violent to my older brother when we were made to visit him when my parents divorced.

Last year he decided that since I had 2 children he didn't know, he would take me to court for access to them. It cost us several thousand pounds but (obviously) he didn't win.

He's spread lies, reported us to social services for unfounded things, been threatening and repeatedly violent. Not just me, but also my mum, stepfather & siblings.

One of my friends sent me a link last night that he stood as a UKIP candidate for his area, I'm shocked that someone with such a history of violence and domestic abuse, absolutely no good character and no standing in the community could just stand??

I'm shocked to think that any party would accept him, given his criminal records and history?! Do they not vet these people?

I'm nervous to google and see if he actually won!

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alwaysblonde · 26/05/2014 06:35

Sorry doh.

You poor thing. Now you know it's a good thing you are t in touch.

My dad is an arse sometimes and supports UKIP. He's so misguided and brain washed it's quite sad.

Feminine · 26/05/2014 06:46

Is this a name change for op? I have see lots of posts under the same name.

Uptheairymountain · 26/05/2014 06:56

Sounds par for the course for a UKIP candidate.

I wouldn't just e-mail UKIP about him, I'd get in touch with the Labour, Lib Dem and Con parties as well, with all the evidence I could.

keepyourchinupdear · 26/05/2014 07:01

Take your story to the press, op.

keepyourchinupdear · 26/05/2014 07:02

Also second what pp said, contact the 3 leading parties.

Icimoi · 26/05/2014 07:53

It doesn't surprise me. An ex colleague of mine is a UKIP candidate and, whilst I don't believe she has done anything criminal, she was widely known within the company as being incompetent and very unpleasant. They will, quite simply, take anyone who can string two words together.

And, Andrewofgg, it's not a matter of whether the party can access criminal records etc: it's a matter of conducting a proper interview and vetting process from which any competent party will be able to assess whether this is someone they really want representing them.

Andrewofgg · 26/05/2014 08:01

Agreed Icimoi but competent parties, and competent employers, are sometimes going to be bamboozled by plausible liars. If they have not got access to records the risk cannot be eliminated. Given that UKIP are a bunch of amateurs the risk is higher, but OP's ex and your ex-colleague might have talked their way through in any event.

curiousgeorgie · 26/05/2014 08:28

For the people who said its not true, I'm not exactly sure how to prove it to you without giving everyone my real name etc. but I can assure you, I'm
not lying.

This wasn't to UKIP bash at all, in fact on other threads I've mentioned that I have absolutely no political knowledge and embarrassingly couldn't tell you what any of the parties planned to do.

I was just shocked that someone like this wouldn't be vetted, and I've emailed UKIP to ask, I got a response to say that they are getting thousands of emails and the turnaround time is 10 days.

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EffectiveCommunication · 26/05/2014 08:30

I watched something once and loads of MP's have criminal records, not just driving offences and there was something else as well I can't remember what it was, it may have been drug use. I guess they could argue if they did their time they deserve a fresh start.

I am sorry you have been through all you have. Please pm me his name so I don't waste my time ever asking for his help if he is my MEP.

Does anyone know how to find out who our MEP is?

Lilithmoon · 26/05/2014 08:44

Here effective: EU results.

AlpacaPicnic · 26/05/2014 08:51

Winning on a 33% average turnout would be nothing to crow about in my book.

But that is not the point of this thread.

Op - I wouldn't go to the press if I were you, as tempting as it may be. Your family would be harassed and I'm sure that after going NC that would be the last thing you would wNt.

BlackeyedSusan · 26/05/2014 09:19

ukip made a huge fuss about someone or other in one of the big parties that had a criminal record from when they are 17 ish. (can you tell I cared?) so given they do no tlike it I would let the other parties know.

giraffescantboogie · 26/05/2014 09:23

:(

Feminine · 26/05/2014 09:25

curious don't you think you should have NC for this thread?

curiousgeorgie · 26/05/2014 09:34

Why? He doesn't know I'm on here, or my user name? And namechanging seems to get a lot of 'this is fake' comments?

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bochead · 26/05/2014 09:46

The other main parties have all allowed horrid pasts to stand. One of my reasons for disliking the Conservatives was because I didn't how Cecil Parkinson got away with treating his disabled child so badly & that's going back yonks. Jeffrey Archer was never held back Red Ken with his 5 illegitimate children and violent outbursts has never come across as unable to muster popular support.

I'm certainly not a UKIP supporter, this is just one more example of a bigger problem with corruption in British political life. It's not a problem specific to only one party - but to all of them that our political system doesn't favour the honest, ethical, moral or upstanding decent types.

BoneyBackJefferson · 26/05/2014 10:00

OP, from your description I would say that your father would fit in quite well in any political party.

UncleT · 26/05/2014 11:08

Hate them as I do, comments about a 'sliver of power' and '33% turnout' are ridiculous, as in any comparison with BNP, who have previously only achieved the most modest of succeses. This is NOT the time for burying heads in the sand and underestimating the extent of what we're facing here. If we just pretend they haven't actually just enjoyed fairly spectacular success then you may as well just hand them their next victory now.

As for the original question, it's reasonable to be pissed off. Contacting the party is indeed probably the best way to proceed.

UncleT · 26/05/2014 11:09

as is*

unrealhousewife · 26/05/2014 11:13

Curious you need to tell your opposition party of choice they will be more than happy to drag him through the mud he deserves to be dragged through.

Feminine · 26/05/2014 13:00

curious I don't think it is possible to be totally anonymous anywhere on line.

So, for that reason I suggested a NC. If you don't mind- then no problem! :)

sarinka · 26/05/2014 14:02

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HoneyDragon · 26/05/2014 14:36

Op, I assume whatever party he stood for it would be distressing for you. If you are non contact than shop him. Let his party know what he's really like.

sarinka · 27/05/2014 04:05

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Tangerinefairy · 27/05/2014 06:15

I hardly think a ukip supporter would start a thread like this.