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To wonder why people do this

83 replies

Hoppinggreen · 20/05/2014 18:44

Something tragic happened near to where I live yesterday.
People have been leaving flowers near the scene, where there are reporters photographing the messages and quizzing everyone who leaves flowers, teddies, etc.
Has anyone on here ever been to leave flowers or similar like this and if so why?
It's not a criticism, perhaps it helps people cope with it but I really can't understand it myself. If you knew the people involved wouldn't you grieve in private and if you didn't know them why would you do it? There is nobody at the scene so who are the flowers and messages for?

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expatinscotland · 20/05/2014 20:28

'Grief is a private thing.... wonder when that changed? Princess Diana, maybe?'

Um, for some. But we have always had war memorials in nearly every town, days to honour the fallen.

Hoppinggreen · 20/05/2014 20:38

I guess some people find grief easier to cope with if you share it with other people who feel the same.
I just really hope that nobody does it to try and get their face on the tellly, it just seems like it's almost become a tourist attraction.

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HighwayDragon · 20/05/2014 20:41

Yes, a young girl was murdered in my town (Jayden) her death touched me, she was just beginning her life journey and I felt compelled to show solidarity.

Tabby1963 · 20/05/2014 20:43

Whenever I see a roadside memorial (there are flowers regularly tied to a tree near where I live) I think about the tragedy that happened here, a young man's life lost. These bunches of flowers, sometimes tied to a tree or to a fence, signify somebody's son or somebody's daughter snatched away because of a fleeting error of judgement when driving.

I see them dotted about the country when I'm driving and they always make me reflect for a few moments about the families torn apart by tragedy.

They are a good thing; they bring comfort of sorts to the family as part of the grieving process; they help to remind me of my own mortality and my responsibility to myself, my passengers and other road users when I'm driving.

wigglesrock · 20/05/2014 21:12

There's lots of road side memorials around where I live - it doesn't bother me at all - it's how people show solidarity, love/ compassion for families that are in terrible pain. My mum was involved in a road accident when she was younger, a friend died. She goes every year at her friends birthday and leaves some flowers at the scene of the accident. It's where her friend died, my mum doesn't like to remember her lying in the road dead, so she leaves flowers.

A very close & much loved relative died whilst on holiday earlier this year. His wife & my Mum went over a few weeks ago to see where he died - someone had left flowers, a complete stranger - the strength & peace my aunt took from that little act of kindness is quite hard to explain.

Hoppinggreen · 20/05/2014 21:16

That's interesting wigglesrock, I was wondering if it gave comfort to the family .

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kelper · 20/05/2014 21:16

Somebody crashed into the river nears my moms house. the family left flowers etc, and also a teddy bear cable tied to a post :( my mom and I often have conversations about building the bear a little shelter so he doesnt look so soggy :(
I left flowers at the site of a very close friends crash. it was a really horrid bend and in hindsight probably not the best idea I've ever had, but we were all so lost about the situation.
And randomly, although I only left daffodils (nbo cellophane etc) every year daffodils grow at the spot. I didn't plant bulbs, so god knows how, but its nice.

MuttonCadet · 20/05/2014 21:24

I do understand why people do it, but who is supposed to keep the memorial clean and tidy?

One of my parents neighbours had a tragic accident happen outside their house, flowers in cellophane and cuddly toys were left. The neighbours didn't want to disrespect the mourners by moving anything so left them there to wither and die, which looked even worse IMHO.

Icimoi · 20/05/2014 21:28

DD wanted to do this once when a French girl who was in our area temporarily was murdered. I totally went along with it because it felt so much worse that she was a foreigner on her own and something so awful happened not just in our country but our town.

What I am allergic to, however, is flowers in cellophane. They're just going to rot and get brown, slimy and smelly in there, and you can't see the flowers properly anyway. Take the cellophane off!

FiveExclamations · 20/05/2014 21:48

Just to show these road side memorials have some history Memorial to Pilot Officer Arthur William Clarke died 11/9/40

We passed it on holiday a few years ago.

Dogsmom · 20/05/2014 22:46

I live in Burntwood which is where Stephen Sutton lived, the teenager who has just raised millions for the teenage cancer Trust.

The school he attended has so many bunches of flowers outside it and it did cross my mind that he would have wanted the money to go to his charity and not the local florist.

With that in mind I haven't taken any and instead chose to make another donation and sign the book of condolence.

AElfgifu · 20/05/2014 23:32

I have done it. Both times not for someone I knew, but for someone who's death I found terribly sad.

It is quite well known that travelling abates grief temporarily, so I suppose it is related to that. During the time you are planning your gift, preparing it and taking it to the site, you don't feel so sad. Then you hope your gift is a comport to the family.

Once was a child about half a mile from us who died in a house fire, and once was a young man murdered in a random attack.

Both times I left a card with the receipt for a donation I had made to charity. For the little girl it was a contribution to oxfams campaign for education for girls in poorer countries, and for the young man it was a donation to a wildlife charity in his name, as I'd read in the paper he was a keen naturalist.

MaoamMuncher · 20/05/2014 23:47

We live very near to a bridge which crosses over a dock onto an island. There are always flowers tied to the bars from.the families of the many people who have lost their lives in the waters (( usually drunk young men tbh ))

A recent one was a guy whose girlfriend threw her shoes into the water during a drunken argument so he.jumped in and got them.

She then said 'prove you love me' and chucked them back in......well, he didnt get out the second time Sad

She often.leaves cards tied to.the.railings, maybe i'm guessing it brings some sort of comfort to.show you've marked where they passed away ??

BackforGood · 20/05/2014 23:48

I don't understand it either.
Surely if you wanted the bereaved family to know you shared their grief, then you could write to them or send a card.

Someone I know whose ds was killed in a RTA said she hated the fact that people were somehow 'making a shrine' around the lamp-post where he died Sad. She very much appreciated all the cards and letters she had though, with memories and messages that she could get out and read again week,s months or years afterwards.
I'm also horrified at the £££ that must be spent on these flowers, (not just in this case, I mean all of them) when if that money were given to a campaign group such as Brake - it might be able to prevent others dying needlessly in the future.

spandangled · 21/05/2014 00:02

I had a family member killed unexpectedly in a car crash. It was the familiar story of a young boy in a vauxhall corsa, at night, crashing into a tree.

When I first visited where it happened, there was a group of his friends lighting candles, it was about 8pm at night and very dark, lots of flowers too. And it gave me some kind of hope. That there were people there talking, remembering, crying, it meant that despite how it happened he had made a mark. It made me feel, less alone. It made the world seem a tiny bit less dark.

Years later and I go to his grave probably once or twice a year, it's not and never will be how I choose to remember. But when I go there are flowers, teddies, Easter eggs or chocolate santas, and that's important. It's not where it is, it's that someone who is a complete stranger to me, cared enough about him to remember in a physical way. The rememberance is more important. It means to me, in some small way, his life wasn't insignificant to others. It's not just me who remembers.

I agree with whoever said it's about solidarity. When you lose someone, there's a flurry of people and two weeks, a month, there's suddenly no one. That tiny act of solidarity, says we remember, without asking intrusive potentially upsetting questions that people often don't want answers to.

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steppemum · 21/05/2014 00:03

A couple of months ago a girl in dds class was killed on the road just by the school.
It was very unexpected (road is not dangerous) and the community was very shocked. Flowers immediately went down at the site and over the next week the area was swamped with cards, flowers, and teddies.It was actually a very important part of the community expressing its grief.
My ds (aged 11) came home on the first day and got his pocket money and went and bought some flowers. Dds asked if they could and dh took them down to add flowers.

I actually hate these flower memorials and would not have wanted to spend money on it, but dh just said yes and it was good for my dcs to do it.

They were there for about 2 weeks, and then, after the funeral, and school memorial, they were all cleared away overnight one night. Apparently the council remove them after a certain amount of time.
That felt right too.

There is one on the side of the dual carriageway near us which is renewed every year, and then goes tatty through the year and then renewed again. It has lots of England flags on it. Now it has a big wooden cross there. i find it very sad and, because it goes tatty, just heart breaking really. I can't think of anything I would want less as a memory that a tatty flag at the side of a busy road Sad

Marcipex · 21/05/2014 00:08

There's one near us where flowers are still left after 30 years.
It's where a burglar on a motorbike was killed fleeing the scene.

Heathcliff27 · 21/05/2014 00:15

I do understand why anyone would want to do this although it does make me feel slightly uncomfortable that the florist must be rubbing their hands together.

I wouldn't place anything for someone I didn't know, I would feel empathy and sadness when reading/hearing about someones death but it wouldn't make me want to rush out and place flowers. Maybe I would feel differently if it was someone I knew though, who knows? I've never been in that position thankfully.

Topaz25 · 21/05/2014 02:22

I thought about leaving flowers for a young local girl who was killed pushing her friend out of the way of a hit and run driver. I decided to make a donation to her funeral expenses instead because I thought that would be more helpful but I can understand the impulse to leave flowers. Sometimes a community is so shocked by a death they just want to do something to pay their respects.

PrincessBabyCat · 21/05/2014 02:38

It's just to show support for the families and victims. We have a bunch of memorials along the highways and intersections here in the US that are kept up pretty regularly. It's part to honor the dead, and part a subtle reminder to drive safe.

kali110 · 21/05/2014 02:42

Maoam what a sad story

singaporeswing · 21/05/2014 03:29

DP's best friend was killed by a drunk driving whilst out cycling a couple of years ago.

He was cremated, we were halfway across the world when the funeral took place and we had nowhere to pay our respects.

He has a memorial ghost bike in a beautiful spot overlooking the beach. Every time we visit (perhaps once or twice a year) we leave flowers at the bike.

It gives us comfort, it shows his family that people think about and love him.

differentnameforthis · 21/05/2014 04:39

Grief is a private thing

I don't think it is, nor should it be.

Why should it be private. Grief can't be controlled, you can't put it on a timer & only have it happen in private situations.

LibraryMum8 · 21/05/2014 05:21

Are you being unreasonable? I guess if you don't understand something you don't understand it. I think LilacRoses hit the nail on the head, though.
I am not fond of roadside ones. I think they distract drivers and are a hazard.