to think I should not have to explain this to a nearly 40 year old DH....

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I made a pie from scratch this morning. I left it in the fridge, covered with foil and with a note saying :

Brush me with a beaten egg using this (pastry brush that was on top) and put me in the oven at 180 for 35 minutes. I will look brown and bubbly and lovely when I am done.

So I get home from work and find a pie, in the oven at 220, covered in foil. The puff pastry was stuck to the foil and raw so when we took the foil off, it stuck to it and now we have a semi raw AND burnt pie with no lid and the baby should have eaten this pie 45 minutes ago.

DH said he didn't know that a pie goes in the oven without foil. AIBU or is he a great lumping BUFFOON.

To be clear id have put the foil back on after brushing it.

Do you never ever cover a pie?

Also... everyone in the world knows you don't cover a pie!!!!!

This is the kind of assumption that does piss me off.

I am a good cook, but I long ago learned that too many cook books, cooks, chefs (including the TV ones) assume that people are born with a certain amount of cookery knowledge. So recipes may fail because certain vital steps are not explained.

But if you've never been taught, then you don't have that knowledge.

This is precisely why Delia Smith does so well, and always has done. She explains stuff in simple basic steps, including not to cover a pie in the oven.

So, OP, everyone knows you don't cover a pie? I can honestly say my DP wouldn't, my DS wouldn't (cos they've never been taught), and DD might (cos she has done some cooking).

It doesn't make them buffoons at all. It's the same as for any other activity, you have to be taught first. You can't just assume people somehow "know".

That is my point dejavu

The foil is off with the egg wash step! I dont need to say dont cover with foil, because the foil is off!!

Aside from that, who covers a pie? He is very familiar with pies!

Did you really put "brush me with a beaten egg blah,blah, blah..."?

It's odd that he glazed and then put the foil back on though.

Then again was it really necessary to cover the pie in foil to leave in the fridge?

I wouldn't have known to take foil off.

Cling film would have been better.

I would have left him to make tea himself (no instructions) and then made a pie with leftovers on Saturday.

He is being a great lumping BUFFOON and I would shout a lot. No bloody excuse for someone who cooks regularly to be so stupid unless they are trying to get out of cooking.

I would have left him to make tea himself (no instructions) and then made a pie with leftovers on Saturday.

He is being a great lumping BUFFOON and I would shout a lot. No bloody excuse for someone who cooks regularly to be so stupid unless they are trying to get out of cooking.

"Semi raw AND burnt"

That does take a rare skill

My DH rang me at work this morning because he'd "bolloxed up the washing machine" - he was trying to wash some garage cloths, realised it was on, switched it off to open the door, realised it was full of dirty bedlinen, realised I must have set the timer & didn't know what to do. Explaining how to reset it over the phone was surprisingly difficult - I gave up with adding the quick-wash setting to the cotton programme as we weren't getting anywhere - & fortunately came home to clean damp laundry

DH is now so well trained I can leave him to cook while I and MN badly.

To be fair, i would have probably took the foil off, brushed the egg onto it then put the foil back on.

Oh & next time cover the pie with cling-film - I'm sure your DH would know that can't go in the oven, unless he tried to microwave the whole thing or something

My DH thought I'd made up Mao Tse-Tung . Seriously, he accused me of inventing a 'joke' dictator for shits and giggles?

YABU to have put foil on it if you didn't want foil on the pie in the oven

Why would you need foil in the fridge on a pie?

If I was following instructions, I would have done exactly what was said (even when counterintuitive).

Perhaps in future less anthropomorphising, and more specifics?

Why was it covered in foil in the first place? Completely unneccessary.

It's your fault, you didn't write take foil off in the instructions. Next time write better instructions.

I would have been able to follow your instructions, but I wouldn't have known not to cook it without foil.

Huge cooked pies used to be sent round the country in carriages, full of game & stuff, the filling to be eaten & the pastry discarded, long before refrigeration.

To be honest, I probably wouldn't have covered it at all in the fridge before it was cooked - it's not as if everything would have evaporated through the steam hole, & it was going to be cooked till "brown and bubbly and lovely" anyway

And I'm afraid with my DH I would definitely have had to have put do not put foil back on

Or, it's your fault for actually daring to put foil on the pie while it was in the fridge. You gotta love mumsnet.

Everyone knows that men can't do domestic things, bless them. Their willies get in the way. It's just not fair to ask them. The only way thy can possibly do it is if they are taught by their mothers when they are little enough for the willy thing not to be a problem. So if it's anyone's fault it's his mother's.

I should have used cling film actually. I covered it in the fridge because the pastry was a few days old and a bit dry already.

He has watched too many great british bake offs to make this error...

I wouldn't have known to cook without foil.

I cook, but tend not to bake. Anything I roast I do tend to do under foil to keep it juicy.

I wouldnt of took foil off unless you wrote to do it. How on earth was he meant to know that.