A good friend of mine has turned Vegan (rant alert)

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And is banging on about how disgusting the meat industry is etc etc, putting provocative shit on facefuck and generally shoving it down my throat. (and her other friends too i imagine). She has two young children and is now thinking about feeding them a vegan diet too - great, im sure its very healthy, whoopie. But i don't want to become a vegan, i was veggie for a while but found it too restrictive i am too lazy and expensive to eat properly. Whatever.

You know what - if you want to be veggie, great, if you want to be and can manage to be vegan - respect! but fuck off with trying to make me feel guilty for not doing the same thing. EVERY fucking time i see or talk to you. especially when the last time i saw you shopping in tesco before you met a new group of friends you were buying battery farmed eggs

She tried to make me have soya milk and really got shitty when i said, no i'll have proper milk please, because actually, and i can't be 100% sure it was the soya or quorn but i had an allergic reaction and had to be blue lighted to hospital when i ate a veggie spag bol once before, so no thankyou very much. Thinking back i could have just had black coffee but was tired and mind fucked from her going on about the poor fucking cows....

Rant over

Im on s diet although it has recently gone out of the window following a health scare. I think I probably bored my friends with how wonderful quinoa is (well it is!) I talked about food slot because j was hungry and obsessing over what to have for tea. I wonder if its the same with my friend she is probably craving a big juicy steak and cant stop thinking about it!

*alot

I don't see anything wrong with vegans 'keeping pets' as long as they are 'rescue' animals and not ones sourced from breeders... and as long as they are fed appropriately.

I don't either BrocanteHunter as long as those two conditions are fulfilled but that would be the same for any pet owner not just vegans.

Theres a lot of passive and direct aggression towards vegans in this thread. Ffs eat your bloody pork chops/sausage/roast rabbit and enjoy it, but stop going on and on and on about it. I couldnt give a flying fuck what you eat so stop giving us nice vegans (yes, I agree there are a few annoying ones out there but most are very
normal) the enjoyment of eating what we want to.

Research wise - its a very healthy diet and suitable for all stages of life. Deficiencies are found in diets of all types if not properly planned. I have only knowingly met 3 vegan patients and all had basic bloods within normal parameters. Mine are also completely normal.

Yes, op's vegan friend sounded annoying but pretty much on par with other posters here. Im off to do real life stuff now before I get slapped by a salmon/eaten alive/develop halitosis/start spitting everywhere/start killing defenceless immobile vegetables/stabbed (just a few select references, im too tired to put any more down due to my severe malnutrition).

Nice bunch of people on this thread....

There's also a good number of pretty normal comments, so there's really no need to lose all perspective like that. You must know perfectly well that the real target here is preachy people, which clearly is not all vegans.

A vegan diet can be extremely healthy. Apart from the fact that in all honesty I'm not bothered enough about the animals.... I'm far too lazy to put the effort in to make sure I have all the necessary vitamins, calcium, iron etc when it's so much easier as an omnivore :)

I'm with fifi669. I love vegan food, but not all the time. I really CBA to have to think and scrutinise everything I buy that is in a packet/jar/tin.

Besides, to me being vegan would be a life of deprivation and sacrifice - no cheese, no mayonnaise, no lovely light sponge cakes. Baked potatoes or toast with margarine instead of butter - yuck. I have tried all the milk alternatives and they just don't cut the mustard, and black tea is punishment.

It isn't for me, but I wouldn't judge anyone for choosing to be veggie or vegan. It isn't difficult to cater for unless they are also fussy eaters or have multiple allergies.

I reckon if you could ask a chicken they would be happy to swap their eggs for good food, shelter and safety.

I just asked my girls and they said 'bwoak bwoark bwoooork" which is roughly translated to 'stop prattling on and feed us human slave'.

I don't see anything wrong with vegans 'keeping pets' as long as they are 'rescue' animals and not ones sourced from breeders... and as long as they are fed appropriately.

You do realise that if no one breeds any animals, that there will eventually be none?

MidniteScribbler

It would be nice though if breeding were done by people who had thought carefully about it instead of indiscriminately breeding their dog with someone else's dog just because they happen to have a dog each and if more people thought about re-homing from a shelter instead since there are so many animals that are in need of homes.

This has gone off the subject a bit although the bit about feeding any pets you have appropriately still stands.

Yes as UncleT says this is about preachy evangelical people not all vegans, it's just that like born again christians they feel they have to tell you all about their discovery and lecture you (all the time) if you don't happen to agree with them.

VenusDeWillendorf Don't get me started on when they start to use alternative vegan, chemical "free" deodorant

Now, now, while I have been known to use Kingfisher toothpaste, you can't get me on the above! I'm a multi-tasker. I comprehend and preach about basic scientific concepts, linguistic pedantry and veganism.

I'm actually seriously considering A-level Chemistry as a hobby course next year, just so I can annoy more people on the internet!

Relax. Whenever anyone gets into something new, they are always over-enthusiastic. She may still stick with it, but will learn that others don't want to hear it as much as she wants to hear about bacon addictions, lol.

I should imagine a vegan diet is VERY healthy actually. I have repeatedly said i have no problem with vegans, in fact i have a lot of respect as i don't have the discipline to do it but i just don't want to discuss it EVERYTIME i see someone, it gets a bit, you know, dull. saying that, my friend is a lovely person she really is but she is hard work

I wouldn't slap you wiht a wet salmon bellybutton - im too nice, its just a saying. Besides, i don't think i could afford a whole salmon.

Going on personal experience, the vegans I've met irl were all lentil weaving, unwashed, raving evangelical cultists. I've yet to meet a tolerant, reasonable one, who flosses, in the flesh, so to speak.

Tilly I don't think you need to study chemistry to be annoying on the Internet - just think of those mid term teens who come and play- they're hardly hatched, with minimal education, and as annoying as hell.

OTOH I studied chemistry, amongst other science subjects, to postgrad level, so maybe I'm super annoying, as I know everything contains chemicals, indeed, each and every person who is on this thread is 'riddled' with chemicals!! just masses and wave forms of seething atoms: protons, neutrons, and electrons, and gawd help us, ions (also called free radicals)..

Imvho recent converts to veganism have always "seen the light", and have an associated sense of humour fail. (Probably because of vitamin B12 deficiency)

Fwiw, I used to be a vegetarian but I'm all right now...... I'm an omnivore. My cat's a carnivore, fed on raw, whole, farmed rabbit. I chose farmed rabbit rather than shooting / trapping wild rabbits, as it's more ethical to me to have safe meat, rather than risk that which might be contaminated, and shooting (and maybe only wounding) is cruel imvho.

There's many more annoying meat eaters. They make their little jokes about vegetarians. At least vegans are trying to do something positive. Veganism benefits everyone.
I think eating meat is very wrong and don't think anyone should do it but it's not up to me.

my vegan neighbour is lovely. i didn't even know she was vegan until i offered her some muffins i had made and she declined really nicely (and took one for her non-vegan husband!)

any evangelist is annoying

I was vegetarian for a few years - tried vegan and couldn't keep going.

My biggest problem was one of my friends - she could not accept my being vegetarian - I made no fuss if I was invited to dinner and they had "forgotten" (every bloody time) that I didn't eat meat or fish, so had just the veggies but she kept telling me I was being fussy and was difficult to cater for (?) and every time she saw me eating made comments like "bet you really wish that was a steak" etc. Whenever she ate at mine I served meat dishes and mine was something different. No kidding, she brought my vegetarianism into every single fucking conversation "we're going to Greece this year" "oh you won't be able to be so fussy with your food there" - "I'm thinking of dying my hair black" "oh is that what vegetarians do?" - "good news, DD got into that school we wanted" "oh will she be vegetarian now then?"

It really totally and utterly pissed me off. Especially once when she was invited to dinner (knowing my now-ex was a meat eater) she arrived and said "I had a big mac on the way because you only eat rabbit food"

My now-ex stood up, took her wine glass out of her hand, gave her jacket back, opened the door and said "you've insulted my wife for too long about her food choices so as you've already eaten fuck off and don't come back"

"I was only joking!"

Nah, ions, protons, neutrons, waves and particles and the chemical nature of the universe is GCSE. It's enough to get people who call steam-cleaners 'chemical-free cleaning'*, but I need more than that to really patronise the hard targets.

Also, given that I warned you I was a pedant, us humans? We're all omnivores. Biological term. What I choose not to eat cannot alter my membership of a species that generally can and does eat everything.

*I actually really wanted a steam-cleaner when they became fashionable, but I couln't find a supplier that didn't advertise them as 'chemical free'. Quite apart from the principle of the matter, it seemed foolish to buy anything from a company I knew to engage in false advertising. It's not a good sign for the customer services department, in my opinion.

Revengeofthechocolatebunny I am so glad she finally got what was coming to her!

Mild annoyance of my life is people like her. They seem to watch work colleagues at lunch with a mental spreadsheet, ticking off who hasn't got meat. Five days or so without it? Then they strike!

'Are you vegetarian, Tilly?', they ask, looking pleased with themselves, 'Why are you vegetarian, Tilly?'

I rather like being vegan then. I have options like, 'No, I'm far too extreme for vegetarianism!'

vegans will never understand meat eaters...
meat eaters will never understand vegans...
perhaps, all they can do is try to co-exist and avoid food talk...
tho'...very often meat eaters asking many, many questions and then don't like answers and feel attacked...perhaps, because deep down they are not comfortable with eating meat actually (just a thought, because some meat eaters are never defensive)

out of interest I don't understand why you consider it more expensive to be vegetarian? Chickpea curry, lentil dahl, cottage pie with puy lentils - all much cheaper then meat versions I think

But back to the issue in hand, can you make a warm friendly joke every time she rants directly at you - something about not wanting to be preached to about anything. General FB posts not directed at you so ignore them and don't pass comment or like

vegans will never understand meat eaters...meat eaters will never understand vegans...

Incorrect. You do not know all vegans and all meat eaters enough to know this. I know many of both who understand each other perfectly well. It's called being a grown up adult. I DO know many of both who are ignorant and can't see other people's point of view as well, but it is possible to understand someone else's decisions and be totally ok with that.

You know, I am very old and. I have never met anyone like this. The only "evangelical" diet people I have ever met are those caught up in scams to sell cheap vitamins and dies supplement very expensively to their friends.

I have however met lot of people who seem to regard somebody saying "no, I don't take milk" or "I'm a vegetarian" as a personal insult and a judgement on their own lifestyles.................

Why drag this old thread up?

How do people even find threads this old to comment on??