A good friend of mine has turned Vegan (rant alert)

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And is banging on about how disgusting the meat industry is etc etc, putting provocative shit on facefuck and generally shoving it down my throat. (and her other friends too i imagine). She has two young children and is now thinking about feeding them a vegan diet too - great, im sure its very healthy, whoopie. But i don't want to become a vegan, i was veggie for a while but found it too restrictive i am too lazy and expensive to eat properly. Whatever.

You know what - if you want to be veggie, great, if you want to be and can manage to be vegan - respect! but fuck off with trying to make me feel guilty for not doing the same thing. EVERY fucking time i see or talk to you. especially when the last time i saw you shopping in tesco before you met a new group of friends you were buying battery farmed eggs

She tried to make me have soya milk and really got shitty when i said, no i'll have proper milk please, because actually, and i can't be 100% sure it was the soya or quorn but i had an allergic reaction and had to be blue lighted to hospital when i ate a veggie spag bol once before, so no thankyou very much. Thinking back i could have just had black coffee but was tired and mind fucked from her going on about the poor fucking cows....

Rant over

Yep, anything "I do this therefore you must too or you're shit" is guaranteed to have me rolling my eyes

I've been veggie for 30 years, and never tell anyone until they ask or notice. We aren't all demented nutters.
Each to their own, but just don't start arguing with me telling me what I should and shouldn't be eating, which is none of your business.

(And don't eat all the veggie sandwiches first, please...let us have some before you pile them all on your plate and walk away from the meat).

(Not to the OP, but just some people in general).

My sister did this when she turned veggie, ranted on and on about meat etc (while wearing leather boots) and for some reason specifically spoke about the horrors of veal.

So I did some research, and the next time she opened her gob I droned on and on about the horrors of dairy farming and how veal was just a byproduct of that. She still drinks milk, but has shut up about her evangelical vegetarianism. still eats haribo though the hypocrite

YANBU.

One of my Facebook friends has not only turned vegan but also started running too, so is now evangelical about both running and being a vegan. Neither of which i am interested in. It is utterly boring. He also jumps on anyone so posts anything about food if it is about meat or dairy and lectures them about their choices

I have no idea why I'm still 'friends' with him...

DH works for a slaughterhouse group. When people tell him they are vegetarian or vegan, he tells them he is a meatarian but doesn't like to talk about it with others. It shuts them up really quickly.

Defriend...simples...(due to her selfish behaviour towards her friends not her veganism). I'm using fb less and less at the moment...

Slithy if she eats Haribo, she's not a vegetarian unless it is the strawberry vegetarian ones.

Same as people who eat fish aren't vegetarians.

Just thought I'd throw that old chestnut in

I have friends who have become vegan, the only thing I can do is ignore them when they go on about it. It is very, very boring.

The thing that made me cross recently was them talking about giving their cats vegan food, cats are pure carnivores and cannot get some of the vitamins and minerals they need from plant food. This is neglect in my book. The only thing that cheers me is that old comment that people who think they have cats that don't eat meat have cats that eat elsewhere.

If people want vegan or vegetarian pets then they should get pets that naturally don't eat meat.

I think we can do more by choosing to eat ethically (if we like meat) than opting out completely.

I find not engaging works best really.

I'm not proselytising but mentioning it because people asked:

The main reasons vegans don't eat eggs are:

"As male birds of the laying strain do not lay eggs and are not suitable for meat production, they are generally killed soon after they hatch.[1] Most of the male chicks are usually killed shortly after being sexed. Methods of culling include cervical dislocation, asphyxiation by carbon dioxide and maceration using a high speed grinder."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_culling

"Free range" doesn't mean what a lot of people think it means. Keeping 16,000 hens in one hangar can be free range if they have hatches to the outside, which some of them will never see. Free range egg production is still industrialised, which means it prioritises money and not the wellbeing of the birds.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508173/16-000-free-range-chickens-crammed-shed-NEVER-daylight.html

Eggs are problematic from the multi-generational point of view. It's all very nice having a group of happy well-fed rescue hens in the back garden, but what has to happen for you to have those chickens in the first place, and for you to replace those chickens at the end of their natural lifespan?

Cockerel+chickens=fertilised eggs
Fertilised eggs hatch into chicks.
Female 50% of chicks become well-looked after laying hens in people's back garden.

What happens to the other 50%? The male ones that are territorial and make anti-social noises at 6am?

I don't eat eggs for the same reason other people neuter their cats. There aren't enough homes for cockerels or more kittens. Excess cats get put down. Spare male chicks also die.

Oh, x-post, sorry.

That goes into haribo. Slithy: your sister is not a vegetarian

I was a vegan once. In my defence i was in my early 20s and still had principles. Vegetarianism on animal rights grounds is hypocrisy and veganism is downright hard work so as a naturally lazy person i eventually went back to meat.

having said that, as a recent convert she will be prey to the full gamut of vegan consciousness. A hardcore vegan (i'm talking ALF/conflict types) must attempt to convert, influence, evangelise their friends & family or they're not a proper vegan. If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem.

the problem with vegan pets is that, as a committed animal rights activist one shouldn't be exploiting animals by keeping them as pets.

Oh believe me carch I know! Same goes for the Worcester sauce, fish sauce, and stock cubes she uses quite happily! Yet I'm evil for eating meat, and god forbid I cook a chicken burger and a bean burger on the same tray. She is a completely hypocrite and does my head in

complete

As soon as I saw Haribo mentioned I wondered when that photo was going to make an appearance!

Nope, she is not a vegetarian, she is an evangelical hypocrite

Why anyone would tar haribo when veggie Percy pigs exist is beyond me

worra, I think that would pass the vegan test. Maybe. Actually, no it wouldn't.

I'm vegetarian and have never lectured anyone about my diet or theirs, but I've had more than enough judgy comments on my diet. I also let the kids eat Haribo at parties and I know full when what goes into it- they're already fucking vegetarian, for god's sake, how much holier do they need to be? I don't care, I really don't, what you and yours eat. Only enough not to serve you something you hate or are allergic to when you visit.

Fucking evangelical runners!

What is this new phenomenon?

EVERY DAY: I'm Running with Map My Walk

The other day, I commented on BIL's one with:

I'm not caring with Map My Not Giving A Fuck About Your Running

He liked it, even lolled. But hasn't stopped posting it

OP, I would post pictures of giant burgers every time she has a FB rant. And I'd keep lost of meat in the fridge for when she comes round

I disagree that vegetarianism is hypocritical. That's like saying it's hypocritical of me to have a direct debit to WaterAid and MSF, because I don't donate my surplus income to them after bills. I support them with as much time and money as I feel I can afford, but not to my personal detriment. And my little bit each month helps.

Vegetarians donate as much time/money to the cause (animal welfare) as they feel able to afford. Things don't have to be all or nothing to achieve something.

All I want is 1 vegan to show me the nipples on a soya bean. I've looked and looked and just can't find the little buggers :(

NoArmani I think it's because Haribo is everywhere now, but yes, same applies to Percy Pigs, most wine gums, marshmallows etc.

Topaz I was actually thinking about the real free-range chickens that people keep (used to keep some very free range ones).

Tilly Thanks for that explanation - I can see how it would be a problem for vegans. I would eat coq au vin.

Funnily enough, I don't eat Haribo etc. when I eat an animal, I want to know I'm eating an animal - not have it jellified into a sweet.

you didnt bother to ask a aibu.