10% of NHS budget is spent on t2 diabetes vast majority is self inflicted, aibu to think they should contribute?

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Its estimated that the cost will go up 17% by 2020. Something needs to change or the NHS will collapse.

Maybe make people that are overweight pay something towards their treatment would in courage people to eat better and exercise more.

There are people are of normal weight and diabetic. What do you suggest for them?

What about everything else which is self inflicted?

What about people who do exercise and get damaged joints? Should they pay?

People who smoke - should they pay?

People who don't eat 7 a day and get heart disease - should they pay?

People who don't breast feed and get breast cancer (increased risk sadly) - should they pay? Where does one stop with this one?

Hardly the only illness or treatable injury that is self inflicted, is it?!

My sprained ankle was 'self inflicted' (up to a point!), my pregnancy was definitely self inflicted, yet that's treated on the NHS.

As long as you start charging smokers for being treated for lung cancer and emphysema, drinkers for being treated for liver cirrhosis and cancer, people who sun tan for being treated for skin cancer, drug users for being treated for over doses etc etc etc

Smoking. Childbirth. Sports injuries. Sunbathing. Driving a car. Taking drugs. 1000000 more other lifestyle choices that cost the NHS money.

Where do you draw the line at "self-inflicted" problem then OP?

Oh, please. YABU.

Yes. All fat people should pay for treatment that might be related to their size. Also all car drivers should pay for any treatment for injuries caused in crashes when it can be proved it is their fault, anyone who had unprotected sex should pay for treatments for STIs or terminations, and all those who play sports should pay because they chose to put themselves in a physical situation in the first place.

How on earth is penalising someone financially going to work for health-related issues? It's cheaper to eat high salt and high sugar foods most of the time anyway, just look at ready meals and own brand biscuits etc.

Campaign to make healthy food cheaper and education on nutrition and cooking better at school.

What a ridiclulous idea.

And what a ridiculous way to spell ridiculous

Wanky idea.

YABU.

It's not only about weight. My father's paternal side of the family were short and slim. His maternal side are tall and slim or stout (not fat). Both sides have diabetes.
I'm about two stone overweight and have LOW blood pressure. Always have.
Those from the subcontinent are prone to diabetes, too. I'm sure that the lard arses in those cultures are less in number than "our" culture.
Think outside the box or at least just say that you think that overweight people should pay more in. Even though I know of overweight people who se usage of the NHS is negligible (like me).
You may need a rethink.

It's funny thing OP, but I could have sworn we all contribute to the NHS already....

So what would you do if someone can't pay? Poor = no treatment? What a lovely US UK that would be.

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Can we get smokers and ex smokers to pay towards the treatment for their smoker related diseases before they die too?

When I gave birth, maybe I should have left some money on the side? Maternity takes a huge part if the budget.

Maybe people involved in car accidents should contribute because they choose to drive.

People who have babies should pay up because they choose to get pregnant.

Or maybe the NHS should carry on doing what it's meant to be doing. Properly. Without the government slowly privatising it.

It was rather 'clueless' YoureNeimgASillyBilly , but quite apt!

They do pay, If they earn they pay tax and NI, as we spend (on the tons of sugar and donuts) we pay 20% extra in tax.

So what about people who get pregnant knowing they have a familial risk of having life-long thyroid complications. They need to pay for their thyroxine. It was a choice after all.

Night workers - increased risk of cancers... well it's self inflicted innit. All those nurses sitting at their desks all night*, knitting and eat biscuits (causing type II diabetes as well as cancer of course). Make em pay for the chemo!

We have the NHS. We pay taxes.

*I'm a nurse. I know how hard we work at night with reduced staff numbers, less back-up and the same number of patients as in the day and none of them asleep...

You know, I love the NHS. I love the fact that we can get healthcare in this country without being terrified of a bill at the end of it. The thought of charging someone for one self-inflicted illness but not others really goes against the whole idea of the NHS.
Like PPs have said, an awful lot of illnesses are self inflicted in some way or another. YABU!

YABU and exhibiting a failure to understand the complexities of the NHS and the way it is funded (not even that complex tbf) that I would expect of a teenager.

Kay Burley is this you?

Surely more injuries/illnesses are self-inflicted than not?

My brother broke a leg doing a skydive for a leukemia charity. Should he not have paid for his treatment? Totally self inflicted after all.

Where do you draw the line? People with supposed 'self-inflicted' illnesses already contribute to the NHS. Why shouldn't they be able to access services they have already paid into?

YABU
But there's a good chance smokers and the overweight will die younger - therefore saving us money due to reduced pension costs.

sorry I have a very dark sense of humour