to think "frozen" is a really bad example in terms of body shape

[Lauranda]

Currently watching frozen with dn. Can't believe the shape of the two main women in it, they make barbie look like a normal woman and posh spice like she has a huge waist and wrists.

Bit worried the impression this gives to young children. No wonder anorexia and bulimia are getting more common.

Notice that the villagers in Frozen have waists like tree-trunks instead of ones smaller than the diameter of their eyes

I'm not sure media is really a link to eating disorders. I'm sure it made them more well known about though. I just find it hard to believe that there were no eating disorders back in the day when girl were wearing corsets that were so tight it shifted their organs around. I think women have always been pressured to be an unrealistic body, even back in medieval times women were taking arsenic to look extra pale. The media is just a reflection of society and it's unrealistic expectations of beauty.

Not saying there is no link between media and eating disorders - but unhealthy, idealised body shapes have been round for nearly two hundred years at least - fully grown women were recorded with waist sizes of 15-18 inches in the mid 19th c, noticeably thinner than almost all of the very tiny models today. Of course there was a print media then, (but nothing like todays) but no film/tv.

It was their noses I thought the most peculiar.

I'm a very large person and I've just done some unscientific measuring - my eyes are the same size s my wrists....

Am I the proportions of a Disnet Princess...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I liked the film. The message re falling for unsuitable men was clear and there was no love interest at all for the main character.

The celeb media and parental input are far more likely to influence eating patterns than a disney princess not being over weight.

Really? Seriously? Who cares!? The princesses are always skinny, thats the point, they are the epitome of beauty. even in the 40s-60s when big waists were fashion, the princesses were still skinny. I think they look better skinny. Elsa and Anna didn't even look that bad!!

Lilo and Stitch was released in 2002 - it is not based around a love story, there is no love at first sight and the main adult female character (Lilo's sister) has a pretty normal body shape.

It is my favourite Disney film...

I have been weirded out by the big bug eyes and very thin princesses in all the recent Disney stuff - not just a frozen problem. That said, Disney reflects the general cultural pressure and it sells.

I love that image on page 1 of a larger sized version of Ariel the mermaid

I always thought Snow White had quite a voluptuous figure!!!

Aurora from Sleeping Beauty was a bit too thin in my eyes though....

I prefer merida from Brave, ok shes quite thin but she kicks ass and sticks two fingers up at the arranged marriage

And if we are talking really thin, Lucy in despicable me 2

Elsa and Anna are obviously wearing corsets that make their eyes bulge a little....

"frozen is the first film to show girls they don't need a man!!!!"
Lilo and stitch
Mulan
Brave
bambi
jungle book
dumbo
fox and the hound
fantasia
brother bear

there are so many that aren't based on love stories!! that show you "don't need a man to save you" because, most of them aren't even princess films. Most of them are talking animals. Frozen is not as good as people make it out to be, I think it's really good but it is no where near the "only disney film" to do anything.

Not being beautiful and slim, I want to see beautiful slim characters in Disney films. Frozen is a lovely film. I imagine the OP does not feel very good about herself.

I don't see the prob. My dd loves it. She doesn't notice their weight, only their hair and clothes and shoes. YABU!

Wind I don't think I'm the person with body issues.

I was very disappointed, was sold it as a film with great female role models.

However these role models make Pippa look fat.

To think that children don't pickup on the body shapes I think is neive.

There was thatsurvey that children had to rank what barbie they found most attractive, they all chose the one with an impossible figure rather than the healthy sized ones.

I think it's probably the first film to show explicitly that you don't need a man by putting a twist in for the 'true love'.

Lots of other films don't have them, but just because they're not needed for the storyline.

In Frozen they do think you need one (first Anna thinks she needs Hans, and then Kristoff thinks he's her true love) but then it shows you don't.

Funny some posters saying of course they're skinny, they're supposed to look good / epitome of beauty... Maybe it's not our children we need to worry about!

Also I think there's a pretty strong argument that media images - esp those viewed in childhood - can and do inform ideas of self and thus directly or indirectly impact the development and manifestation of mental illness in both children and adults, including eating disorders.

In fairness, leedsgirl231, The Jungle Book features this song, sung by Shanti who is the main 'girl' in it:

Father's hunting in the forest
Mother's cooking in the home
I must go to fetch the water
'Til the day that I'm grown
'Til I'm grown, 'til I'm grown
I must go to fetch the water
'Til the day that I'm grown

Then I will have a handsome husband
And a daughter of my own
And I'll send her to fetch the water
I'll be cooking in the home
Then I'll send her to fetch the water
I'll be cooking in the home

The story itself might not be about love, but the female characters are defined either by their relationships to the males or by their role in supporting/serving the menfolk.

Also, in Bambi, his mother (arguably one of the most vaunted female Disney characters) doesn't even have a name, Bambi has to 'rescue' Faline from a pack of hunting dogs and the ending is that he becomes the Prince of the forest and she is his 'wife' and the mother of his children with apparently no other responsibilities. There isn't much female empowerment to be had there either.

The blonde one looks slutty when she does the dress thing during let it go. Plus her tits seem to balloon.
Not a great role model for young girls.

Violet I agree with you- I don't think one image in Frozen causes eating disorders, but our teens have never been so unhappy psychologically, and this low self-esteem, peer pressure, feelings of inadequacy inevitably manifest in disorders and mental poor health, such as eating disorders. The images in the media/films feed into these feelings of inadequacy for the majority of women who say they don't like their bodies.

I love all the other messages in Frozen, and Let it Go is a great song, but the shot of Elsa transforming from a stick with a green dress on to a stick with a sparkly blue one makes me cringe every time. And, me and my girls have watched it a LOT of times.

i dont think there skinny at all very normal infact normalizing chunkyness is as bad as pro anna

i love frozen too and the sassy walk.