To be sad and appalled that a healthy diet is now beyond the reach of many.

[Darkesteyes]

Absolutely appalling. And it will have an effect on the NHS. Poorer people are bashed for being poor.. and bashed for being overweight. Why do I have a feeling its only going to get worse.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27225323

I don't insult my clients on MN, no.

And I don't imply to posters that I would not want them to use a service at which I volunteered (or worked).

That's really crossing a line.

Yes it is really crossing a line when no ones name is mentioned, the area, the name of the foodbank

Bloody hell, call the police

Report it to MNHQ

iwant I'm sorry but I have to point out that the attitude you've shown in your posts is part of the reason people don't engage with services. They are down and fear further judgement. I can honestly say that if things go tips up again your posts have put me off ever asking from help from a food bank or any other charity to help me. Now I know what the staff and volunteers would think of me.

BTW if I was offered a cookery course I wouldn't attend it. I already have cookery skills, if things had gone tips up I wouldn't have been able to afford child care and my time would be better spent studying and job searching.

I'm sorry but I have to point out that the attitude you've shown in your posts is part of the reason people don't engage with services

Rubbish, the people who come to my local foodbank have grown

Don't ask for help at foodbank then, up to you uselessidiot

The numbers using food banks has grown because growing numbers of people are desperate.

But according to you uselessidiot people don't engage with services because of my attitude, why have the numbers using food banks grown then?

Make your mind up

iwantsun Fri 02-May-14 23:28:14

I'm sorry but I have to point out that the attitude you've shown in your posts is part of the reason people don't engage with services

Rubbish, the people who come to my local foodbank have grown

Unlike your empathy

I don't have any empathy for you darkesteyes

iwantsun

Because those people have no idea what you're opinions of them actually are. I suspect if they did they wouldn't go.

Tequila My opinions are that kids should be fed healthy food above new TVs and booze that some parents ply themselves with

Is that such a shameful attitude?

oh ffs

I would like to hear more from shadow and garlic and tequila all the rest of the posters who have been there, on this interesting question.

Not only because they have been there-actually been there, as opposed to, say, working in the packing room of the -daily fail a food bank or whatever-but they all write bloody well.

can you actually ply yourself

now there's an interesting question

and one I'd never considered before this moment

It isn't that at all, it's your attitude to what they should and shouldn't be eating which you've spoken about throughout the thread.

x posts sorry

Not only because they have been there-actually been there, as opposed to, say, working in the packing room of the -daily fail a food bank

Wish I could send you packing

It isn't that at all, it's your attitude to what they should and shouldn't be eating which you've spoken about throughout the thread

It is their choice what they want to come to the foodbank for. If they want crap food, they get crap food. Their choice. Further help with nutrition and cooking is available if they want it

We don't insist they only take healthy stuff

Whilst you're silently judging them. Perhaps it's not the place for you? But regardless, thankyou for volunteering but i really hope you don't show your distaste.

Tequila don't need your thanks or your suggestions

I've been polite to you throughout this thread, why are you being so rude?

In fact don't answer, I won't be polite much longer.

iwantsun Did your parents do that to you Did they feed you junk food because it was all they could afford.

is that why you look down on parents on a low income so much. And why you seem to have so much hatred and derision for them?

iwantsun your judging will make it harder for people to engage with anything beyond the getting food to ensure that their children don't starve this week. And yes, if they don't have money for the meter they will want instant stuff.

Worra I think the thing is that if I take DS out and it takes longer than I expect I can go into a naice cafe and either share a sitdown meal or get him his own children's meal with good ingredients and he'll steal my food anyway which he eats or leaves and I'm not really bothered which. How much harder is it if you have to choose a basic sandwich and you know the options to buy more food are limited?

AShadow's situation isn't terribly rare, and nor is the decision being made. Maybe it isn't the choice you would have made but surely you can see that a lot of the "comfort eating" is due to limited options.

But, Iwantsun you do need to consider the impact of the impression you are giving others about food bank staff.

Its not your personal foodbank, just because you volunteer at it in some capacity. It will be run on donations from loads of people, including people who can barely afford to donate but do because they know what its like. It will be run on the time donations of many.

I'm aware you don't really care. Frankly, your posts read like someone looking to get a rise and enjoying being rude. But honestly, this isn't the place.

I have no idea whether or not you really work for a food bank. I'd be surprised if you were front line staff, ie someone with much direct experience of people coming in, but who knows.

This has turned into a thread about the fecklessness of the poor which is a shame as it was very interesting before that. I've worked and volunteered with people on the poverty line for fifteen years and I've still learnt a lot.

I would like to address worraliberty's post about fussy eating. I was a fussy eater in the 60's, in a poor family. I didn't like a lot of the food my mum cooked, or the food I was given for packed lunches (my sandwiches used to go straight in the bin). I basically went hungry at times.
That's why I try and cater for my children's choices, even when I was on a very small budget (I'm not now).It isn't true that children will eat as soon as they are hungry. My middle child would have starved if I hadn't have given him the few things he did eat.

The 1.6 children in "severe poverty" is nothing like severe poverty in other contries. Its simply based on being under a certain percentage. Of course charities are going to quote it as they want public funds.

Theres little point throwing more money at the problem, those with children on benefits often have a higher household income than a lone worker in a standard job. If benefits truly provided the bare basics, then the thousands that choose to live on them wouldnt do so.

Schools already teach so much and not sure they could stretch to cover anything else but somebody needs to do it. Maybe the Home Ec GCSE should be compulsory and include managing a budget. Various scenarios inc saving for rainy days and cutting back if something changes. Showing salaries for jobs, the cost of having a child etc. Breaking the mindset and instilling a sound knowledge base and good work ethic would be a start.

There is no excuse to not eat decently in the UK. Food is cheap and supermarkets sell fresh fruit and veg very cheaply. Its down to how the adults spend their money. Some will spend on decent food whilst some prefer to buy rubbish so they can still have their wine, smoke or the latest gadget.

The poster who said grammar and cleanliness is ripped apart on MN whilst producing numerous children and not working to provide for them properly is defended to the hilt is spot on. Its a no no on MN to suggest people should wait to have children or not have them at all if they cant afford them. Then its the states fault for not throwing money at them when they do have them and realise they need feeding and clothing etc.

Oh ffs have you actually read any of the thread?

Anyway have a good weekend there in cloud cuckoo land.