to wish all these filthy rich people who claim to know what it's like to live off a pittance, would just fuck the hell off?

[sickofthisshite]

AIBU?

Sarah Ferguson claims a family of 4 can easily live off £80 p/wk to cover all living costs

Boris Johnson has said the poor "should show gratitude to the mega rich"

Iain Duncan Smith says living off £53 is doable for a single person.

According to DC, customers at Waitress are "friendlier & more engaged" than those he has interacted with at other supermarkets. As if people who shop in Sains, Tesco, etc don't have opinion on politics & the state of the country, their lives. Just because someone is inarticulate or introverted does not mean there thoughts & feelings are irrelevant.

The list goes on.

Who the hell are these prats to judge those in the vicious, relentless struggle of poverty.

I hope there perfect little bubble is one day burst.

It makes me sick to my very core.

Darkest - if you can't eat pasta then don't - nobody is saying you have to. Choose something else that is cheap, nutritious and doesn't play havoc with your metabolism and weight. The pasta suggestion was not a cure-all, it was simply an example (as I think I already mentioned) [head/desk]

As well as setting up home, maintaining it is difficult.

It's fine, if your house can with an already sorted out, neat garden, but you have to ignore so much that others take for granted, that slowly you give up more each day.

Washing clothes was an absolute nightmare because the washing machine used a lot of leccy, and washing powder is so expensive. I found I was fitting in with the horrible stereotype and wearing PJ's so I didn't have to use my clothes and get them dirty.

Just little things like that that people take for granted.

People should congratulate themselves in coming out the other side, or keeping going, especially Carers.

But even Carers were attacked by this government and Universal Credit, the disabled by the Bedroom tax.

So why do your property up, or keep slight on, to be told that it/your simply not good enough, or your over entitled to want stable housing.

"I didn't buy sanitary pads for about 5 years I just used loo roll."

You should of gathered leaves and bound them with spit, wasteral.

Universal Credit is a farce.

I signed onto it last month (lost my job) and its been 5 weeks now. Not a penny. It's a good job I have a DP to support me.

I feel so sorry for carers.

Birds I think you'll find you'll need that spit to rehydrate yourself once the water's been cut off.

There you wingers go again, there's free water in the gutters.

What do you need taps for?

Silky Cat I actually lost ten stone What have you achieived apart from being a goady fucker.

Yeah Birds theres always the toilet

Or Tesco's/Asda/McDonald's you can drink out of the Taps, bum the free Wifi and there's usually a few spare toilet rolls hanging about the loo's.

i've lived off coffee and cheap coffee mate before now toilet roll was stolen from the pub if i was short (no i wasn't drinking i just used the facilities) i had no food my family gave me fags instead of food which was a bonus as it deadens the appetite but i would have killed for a bacon butty by the time i got a job i was totally addicted to no food and fags my new friends helped me eat actual food it was a shocking experience i ate outside at first because i dribbled my body was not used to it being poor is horrific

Tequilamocking so poor people don't need tv? Maybe they don't need any treats either - just bread and water? Rags for clothes? I am a lawyer now and was v unwell a few years ago and applied for DLA. The number of people who thought I shouldn't be able to have a smart phone or free view box or a car because I was unlucky enough to get ill was unreal. Like I was a second class citizen.

When I was poor I certainly wasn't capable of becoming 10 stone overweight.

Yanbu for most of it, they're really low amounts for todays expenses. And you're right, you can't know what it's like unless you've been there.
But, one thing I do agree with Boris for is the gratitude bit.scenario:
Person A working a tough job for a good (Rich) wage has to give person B, a complete stranger, x (,essentially, through tax system).
I get that x isn't enough.
But surely it's better than nothing? Surely the correct response us 'thank you'.

BigPaws it shows how well the propaganda has worked.

silky

bigpaws it's not a need. I'm not saying poor people shouldn't have them. What I am saying is that it's really one of the things that could go if needs must. If you have read the thread you will realise that I've been there. So please don't try and insinuate I think poor people are less deserving

The whole point was managing on £53. If that's all you've been given then you don't waste money on a tv license. Well I didn't anyway.

dark

Your feelings on personal attacks and beyond the pale posts?

Do you think they should be left to be seen so people can see the poster for the nasty fucker they are or do you think they should go as they contribute little towards the thread?

Sock that's a tough one. In a way I think they should stay Then in future years ppl can see how well propaganda has worked AGAIN!

How have we ended up as a country governed by public school educated privileged bigots who have no concept of how the vast majority of occupants of the country they profess to govern live? They are there purely because of their inflated egos and sense of self-importance and may the rest of us rot, for all they care. Unless of course it's election time when they'll vomit all over us with their lies and false promises and more sad suckers in this fucked up mess of a country will take it all in and vote again for more of the same crap.

No one 'needs' a TV, and no one 'needs' the internet.

Yet if you're stuck on a low income for years - and you're supposed to just sit staring at the wall all the time, with no entertainment, no trips out, what does that do to a person? Sure some will be fine, but sometimes you just need a pick-me-up for your own mental health.

I actually find the internet vital. For research, support, looking up deals, going through Qudico. When I was unemployed for a few months some years ago I spent hours on my applications. My local library offers an hour access off-peak, twenty minutes when it's busy. That would have meant at best one application, but usually much less. It was much more efficient to have my own access.

And now I'm probably going to be on benefits for the rest of my life, as I'm bed bound most of the time by a progessive illness. I can honestly say if you took the internet and TV away I wouldn't be here much longer. They've both become pretty important feature of my life.

arethereanyleftatall - alternatively, person A employs persons B to ZZZZZ...ZZZZZ, all on minimum wage and all doing strenuous and necessary jobs, such as cleaning. Person A makes a huge profit through others' hard work as well as their own, gets government benefits to top up their employees low wages and also receives a tax cut.

Don't you think person A should be equally grateful to their employees, or more?

I agree with you there,up.

you can't tar everyone with the same brush rich or poor.