The death penalty?

[WaywardOn3]

Ok so I was reading this article about a man sentenced to death taking half an hour to die. The state have upped the dose to try to prevent it happening again.

While I'm against having a death penalty his lawyers comments bugged me as him potentially suffering for up to half an hour before death breached his human rights. What about the young pregnant woman's human rights to not be raped and murdered? She must surely have suffered far longer than half an hour and in actual pain/fear for herself and her child not assumed and unconfirmed pain.

AIBU to not care that he may have suffered ever so slightly in his last unconscious half hour?

Nowt wrong with UKIP. They will be getting my vote on 22nd May.

Yeah, yeah, kill the criminals, lock up the disabled, get rid of the scroungers and all the forriners.
Delightful!

The Russians have it right. Gulags, thats the answer.

Dawn

My god, I hope you don't teach English. forriners

Oh good grief. I think you can see from my previous posts that I am at least reasonably articulate.
Now, do fuck off there's a dear. Far too many trolls on here recently.

Forriners is ironic, smellysammy. Are you new to MN?

yes why not send those that oppose government to prison, like UKIP they would in Russia

Yes, well, I thought I'd do it in the style of the little bon mots you have been littering theads with, dear.

Dawndonnaagain

You are a bully.

No, I'm not. I called you out on your awful comment about the electric chair. You tried to pick me up on my spelling. I stood my ground and you are claiming bully because you do not like what I have said.
I have reported you.

Dawn

I have reported you also. I have done this because I have seen how you repeatedly attack people on here.

smelly, I suggest you do some research on botched electric chair executions (Jessie Tafero, Allan Lee Davis, to name but two) and see whether you still think the electric chair was a good way to kill people.

Smelly is as smelly does.

Tehehe pointy. :o

Ahem!

i'd be quite happy for there to be a death penalty if there could be absolutely no doubt of the guilt of the criminal - the problem is too often there is doubt. i'm against the death penalty for that reason.

half an hour is much too long to take over an execution though . i'm glad they've upped the dose to prevent it happening again. if there's going to be executions, they should be quick.

Would you be "quite happy" for there to be death penalty if the person being executed was your child, louise?

Didn't think so.

I see where you are coming from in a way, I struggle to find sympathy for those who have murdered, tortured, raped other members of society, however two wrongs do not make right, particularly as in America a life sentence can very much mean life. However, prison should be that a prison, no tv or luxury items, a life staring at 4 walls/doing manual work that benefits society all day long is what prison should be

cryptic, in a maximum security prison in the US, it is exactly as you hope it would be.

I've been writing to a prisoner on Death Row since 1991. He was 19 when he was sent to prison. He's been on Death Row for 29 years.

In addition to being locked up for 23 hours a day, his health needs are all but ignored, his cell is frequently "shaken down" and his meagre possessions are either damaged or destroyed and there is no attempt at rehabilitation.

Supporters of the DP in this thread all put themselves in the position of the victim, but as I asked louise upthread, what would your position be if it were your child on Death Row?

SuburbanRhonda

I'm always suspicious about women who write to Death Row prisoners. I have always put it down to morbid curiosity. I hope I am wrong.

The opposite of the death penalty is not sympathy for the criminal.

I'm opposed to the death penalty - doesn't make me pro the murderer.

I see the death penalty as state sanctioned pre-meditated murder.

sammy, who said I was a woman?

I see the death penalty as state sanctioned pre-meditated murder.

^^ This

another botched execution

I would hope that forensic science is advanced enough that guilt should be 100% proven before a death sentence was even considered a possible punishment?

There was a case when a man was on death row, call him A, he was innocent. Someone else (B) was arrested for another crime, B also confessed to the crime A was in prison for, there was enough evidence to convict B of the crime.

A was not released. A stayed on death row for another 2 years. The wheels of legal arguments kept turning slowly, the fact he was innocent was irrelevant, he had been convicted and sentenced to death.

I'll try to find the actual details to link to